EVE General Discussion

Here, here. Those of us in Faction Warfare know that it, in concept at least, is the answer to most of the gripes the nullsec crowd has had enough of.

We've been "ignored' for years now (at least publicity wise) because everyone assumes it is dead or full of noobs, both of which are very much not true.

FW has a thriving small ship pew pew scene, and it always has. Here you will find some of the best AF, inty, pirate frigate/cruiser pilots New Eden has to offer. And those of us that participate also know that ship balancing overall is not really a crisis issue. We've killed and been killed by just about every ship in the game, they all have their uses (except you, Mr. Breacher. You're a piece of crap and really are more of a badly assembled tent than a combat frigate. One of the few minmatar ships that lives up to its scrapheap stereotype)

We do however, gotta get the supercaps outta lowsec. My own militia has the upper hand here, and I still want them gone. (For those of you not familiar - the Minmatar Militia has a Supercap fleet, the Amarr do not, and thus resort to organizing Alliance batphone hotdrops before taking on any of our decent sized fleets these days, out of paranoia. We sit back and laugh when their own batphone caps turn on them after wiping us out, to further increase the killmail count. Its ridiculous.)

@CSM, thanks for the minutes (at last). However, from those notes, it appears nothing is of concern at CCP. They don't admit to doing anything wrong at all, apart from bad communication with the CSM. They seem to have no problem deliberately putting nex items @ 3600, 100 aur above the amount required to purchase a plex. This is clearly a scam, no matter which way it is worded. I'm sure you all agree, i'm just confused atthe part where you think CCP are going to listen to you about something that they think isn't an issue?

I almost wrote something meaningful, but because forum desided to instawipe my message when I gently pushed the post-button, that story can only be examined in bit heaven.

Oh well - only 3rd time that happened with this new "million manhour project". At least there wasn't error message - maybe that is good thing?

btw ppl... avoid posting percent signs to your messages as they seem to cause BBcode parser errors when quoting/editing .)

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That is a fair reply Meissa.

You guys are fighting the right fight right now. Get more CCP resources dedicated on EVE ... period!!!

If they do that, that will mean more fixes, more developers to generate new content, etc. I can get on board with that.

I am still not convinced of "the null sec drives EVE argument." If we look at the game that way, the game balance problems will never go away. Each area of EVE's space - HI, LOW, NULL and WH space - need equal attention. To neglect one, in favor of the others, will throw off a different type of balance than ship balance, or risk v. reward balance.

Mind you, I am not sold on the whole risk v. reward balance approach either. That still smacks of "herding" and "endgame" in my mind. That just doesn't translate in a sandbox. The more you do that, the more you are going to fuel things like super-alliances taking control of huge sectors of space, keeping the little guy out (if you give them more ISK to make, then the rich will only become richer). The more you do that, the more you will fuel super-cap warfare over sub-cap warfare (more ISK for bigger ships, right). Risk v. reward is a broken concept.

Focus on just giving NULL guys more things to do out there ... period ... at all levels (beginner, novice, vet). That is EXPANSION, not REDISTRIBUTION. I still say they should make NULL about EMPIRE building. Make the toys, missions, mining, etc. all about building EMPIRES out there and letting them fight over it. Make LOW about PIRACY! Make it the down and dirty part of space. Give pirates a haven and anti-pirates some vigilante work to do. Make HI about the four big empires.

Enough said... Thanks for the reply Meissa.

Dex was here.

I think the 0.0 changes coming are more needed that low sec, not because I'm in a 0.0 but because I have a reasonable understanding that 0.0 has a fairly hefty impact on empire and lowsec. I agree low sec needs a dam good boost but at a time when 0.0 is being devastated by (retrospectively) bad moves from CCP (Supercaps, Sov Mechanics etc) and a significant chunk of players are rapidly losing interest on both sides.

0.0 might not be important to you individually but if it doesnt get the viagra it needs then the bulk of players will get bored (you only have to look at the 'DRF wars' both sides are bored stupid of the same ending to a battle - except the Russian alliances, they are just in it for the bots), once they start to drop out it starts impacting what happens out there which then filters down and starts damaging empire ice mining, production, research, PI etc. Yes thats probably looking further ahead than Winter, but its better to start fixing those potential problems than 'waste' the effort buffing something that to be quite frankly doesn't have that big an impact on the overall running of Eve.

I will await the general flaming from low sec residents - but I will point out that I agree lowsec does need a overdose of viagra in the near future.

Subscriber drop has nothing to do with "flying in space", it has to do with people losing trust in CCP.

CCP's various so-called apologies haven't regained that trust. Only time will regain that trust, and a refocusing away from fleecing the playerbase back into entertaining the playerbase. Piddle Paddle with the CSM won't change the lack of trust people feel in CCP, both in terms of those who have left and those that are dejected over the debacles of the last few months and who are barely hanging on.

Real content will help mitigate the issue, but only time will win back the hearts and minds of those the company spit in the face of.

I think CCP wants to focus on nul sec first due to the fact that they advertise empire building and owning space as one of the key features of EVE. If they keep promoting that feature what good is it if no one plays in nul sec. Yes low sec and FW need fixing but hopefully if they can fix nul sec, you should a ripple effect across all spectrum's of the game, then they can focus on other aspects of the game that need work.

Riggs

They will need to act fast, because time is running out...

Yes...they are telling you they are having meetings. They could tell you they are having ice cream sandwiches on the moon, too. And you have to believe them because...hey...NDA. But I'm sure CCP will vouch for their honesty.

CSM trolls forum-dwellers.
6/10

Free trip to Iceland again!!!

Look forward to the Minutes on this we will get in 5-6 months? lol

Meh, we will see if they get this sorted, but I fear CCP has learned if they just wait it out. There will be 3 months of quiet, and 2 weeks of the uproars.