EVE General Discussion

I know it is toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo expensive to build up a marauder fleet. But actually it is the same answer like those tengu fleet right?

I'm good at research ,manufacture and sell them, but never good at use them.

I just want some reason EXCEPT prices (and resource requirement, actually the same thing as prices) .

Maybe construction time is too long could be the first one.

The more important question: when and where will this shiny shiny fleet be fielded?

I think this might be the most critical weakness of bastion mode.

Doesn't the bastion also prevent said neut making the fight between the active tank of the marauder and the DPS of the enemy? The marauder would still most likely lose but it might take much longer and the rest of the marauder's fleet will apply damage during that time.

They are immune to tracking disruption as well as sensor damps ("all forms of EWAR"). Yes, they are vulnerable to neuting and nos. Considering they can't rep or transfer cap to each other in bastion, it makes having all those extra high slots kind of moot as far as rr fleets are concerned.

The biggest weakness of the Marauder fleet is the inability to move while in bastion mode.

If you can make the case that a Marauder doctrine can outperform the same number of less expensive ships, then people will use it. So ultimately, cost is not a major consideration, same reason people use a 2b Blops directly rather then bridging in 20 bombers for the same price, per player you have, the blops will out perform.

The inability to move matters for two key reasons. First, it makes it easier for your enemy to disengage with minimal losses once they realize they are loosing. Burn out, and they are safe, you wont be able to close and hold tackle. Second, it makes the principle weakness of the Marauder, neut vulnerability, that much worse. With a logi, I can rep you out to 70km, and will want to be 50+km out just to reduce damage, which means they can probably get away from neuts. With bastion mode, your committed to one place on the battlefield, and once the neuts are on you, your just not going to escape them.

Those two weaknesses dramatically limit the pvp value of the ships. Furthermore, the insane individual tank of the marauder starts to loose out to logi once you get to 4-5 t2 logi, so figure a 20-25 man gang. That does leave it some niche room in the small gang market, but I doubt you'll see it much in light of the combination of cost, weaknesses, and the tendency of people to blob somewhat rare and expensive battleships that wont be able to run quickly after tanking.

It's just baltec, why would You even care?

Are you talking about the even-toed ungulate or cigarettes here?

I have a small Domi fleet I utilize at times. I like drone assist.