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Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#61 - 2013-11-27 19:34:45 UTC
I do think it's kind of funny that you would think anyone would unsubscribe or stop playing over the autopilot button though. Are you going to stop playing if they change it? Yeah, it's just not that important, right?
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#62 - 2013-11-27 19:36:43 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:


No it isn't.



OH yes it is


You're so right, what was I thinking to even disagree at all?
Hiryu Jin
noXCorp
#63 - 2013-11-27 19:38:03 UTC
remember when AP was really broken and sent everyone to rancer. :p
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#64 - 2013-11-27 19:38:25 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:


You're so right, what was I thinking to even disagree at all?


Its ok

A lot of people think they disagree with me

But really

I know they dont

Dont worry cutie

I still

Think you're tops xxx

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#65 - 2013-11-27 19:39:03 UTC
Hiryu Jin wrote:
remember when AP was really broken and sent everyone to rancer. :p


Now that's broken.
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#66 - 2013-11-27 19:39:48 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:


You're so right, what was I thinking to even disagree at all?


Its ok

A lot of people think they disagree with me

But really

I know they dont

Dont worry cutie

I still

Think you're tops xxx



Sorry babe, I like my girls with McCands.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#67 - 2013-11-27 19:42:44 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:


Sorry babe, I like my girls with McCands.


Yeeooo I saw what you did there

Its ok

Because it only matters that I like YOU


My affection is NOT a two way street

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2013-11-28 00:15:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
Hey bottom dwelling risk averse losers need kill mails too ... Think of the losers!

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Ebs Tarmin
BOVRIL bOREers Mining CO-OP
Goonswarm Federation
#69 - 2013-11-28 00:20:07 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:
I use my programming skills to automate stuff all the time.

I do this because when I do it, it does things better and quicker and with less mistakes than manual operation.

So autopilot doing a job that I could program a bot to do instead (hit jump button on system change) and the bot that I programmed would do it better. It's an incorrect game design decision, because those who really care will sit there and manually jump (as I do). So I'm not asking for any safety, I'm asking for autopilot to be an automatic pilot, not an automatic idiot.

As for wanting the game to play itself... is there really a difference here? I've set destination, and all I do is go into the game and press 'jump' every system as opposed to not having to do that. That's the difference here. I'm NOT ACTUALLY PLAYING A GAME. The decisions that make up the gamespace have already been made - I'm going to wherever. That's set. What you're asking me to do is sit there and babysit a game that really doesn't need it with a very small tweak. Once the decision is made, why can't I have a computer (my gosh, we've invented those in real life that work better!) do the grunt work of pressing 'jump' every system change? Is that really too much to ask in a computer game?

What you appear to be missing is where the 'fun' is in EVE. I'm guessing, pressing the 'jump' button 15 times isn't fun for most people. Why are you so opposed to ditching that?



-Thankyou, a voice of reason in a sea of fuzzy logic. I would love to see a dev's reply to this post...
J'mee Leggs
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#70 - 2013-11-28 00:42:09 UTC  |  Edited by: J'mee Leggs
Ebs Tarmin wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
I use my programming skills to automate stuff all the time.

I do this because when I do it, it does things better and quicker and with less mistakes than manual operation.

So autopilot doing a job that I could program a bot to do instead (hit jump button on system change) and the bot that I programmed would do it better. It's an incorrect game design decision, because those who really care will sit there and manually jump (as I do). So I'm not asking for any safety, I'm asking for autopilot to be an automatic pilot, not an automatic idiot.

As for wanting the game to play itself... is there really a difference here? I've set destination, and all I do is go into the game and press 'jump' every system as opposed to not having to do that. That's the difference here. I'm NOT ACTUALLY PLAYING A GAME. The decisions that make up the gamespace have already been made - I'm going to wherever. That's set. What you're asking me to do is sit there and babysit a game that really doesn't need it with a very small tweak. Once the decision is made, why can't I have a computer (my gosh, we've invented those in real life that work better!) do the grunt work of pressing 'jump' every system change? Is that really too much to ask in a computer game?

What you appear to be missing is where the 'fun' is in EVE. I'm guessing, pressing the 'jump' button 15 times isn't fun for most people. Why are you so opposed to ditching that?



-Thankyou, a voice of reason in a sea of fuzzy logic. I would love to see a dev's reply to this post...


The Devs don't care because the Devs designed autopilot this way intentionally. They want travelling by autopilot to be dangerous. Deal with it.

EDIT: I'd hate to see how you'd qq if they took the "warp to zero" button back out of the game...
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#71 - 2013-11-28 00:43:09 UTC
Ebs Tarmin wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
I use my programming skills to automate stuff all the time.

I do this because when I do it, it does things better and quicker and with less mistakes than manual operation.

So autopilot doing a job that I could program a bot to do instead (hit jump button on system change) and the bot that I programmed would do it better. It's an incorrect game design decision, because those who really care will sit there and manually jump (as I do). So I'm not asking for any safety, I'm asking for autopilot to be an automatic pilot, not an automatic idiot.

As for wanting the game to play itself... is there really a difference here? I've set destination, and all I do is go into the game and press 'jump' every system as opposed to not having to do that. That's the difference here. I'm NOT ACTUALLY PLAYING A GAME. The decisions that make up the gamespace have already been made - I'm going to wherever. That's set. What you're asking me to do is sit there and babysit a game that really doesn't need it with a very small tweak. Once the decision is made, why can't I have a computer (my gosh, we've invented those in real life that work better!) do the grunt work of pressing 'jump' every system change? Is that really too much to ask in a computer game?

What you appear to be missing is where the 'fun' is in EVE. I'm guessing, pressing the 'jump' button 15 times isn't fun for most people. Why are you so opposed to ditching that?



-Thankyou, a voice of reason in a sea of fuzzy logic. I would love to see a dev's reply to this post...

Devs are failed UO gankers. They don't see any issue with it.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#72 - 2013-11-28 00:45:35 UTC
Autopilot has always been broken.

Use it and you are unlikely to reach your destination. Twisted

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#73 - 2013-11-28 01:31:17 UTC
To think the biggest issue used to be bookmark copying of 15km bm's and perch points.

Kids these days.

(ಠ_ృ) ~ It Takes a Million Years to Become Diamonds So Lets Just Burn Like Coal Until the Sky's Black ~ (ಠ_ృ)
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#74 - 2013-11-28 01:55:41 UTC
If nothing got me that close to the gate, then autopilot also doing it would be fine. It would make the game slower, but with a purpose. Then, I would need to watch my travel no matter what, because when I landed, I would have to get to the gate. That actually sounds better than warp to 0. Traveling would be risky.
Xen Solarus
Furious Destruction and Salvage
#75 - 2013-11-28 02:14:03 UTC
I like how you say autopilot is broken, and then don't say why. You might as well have said that you want it changed to make your afk-style play faster!

You should have been around in the old days, when warping to 0 didn't exist, and you had to have massive amounts of bookmarks set past each and every gate to get around fast. Shocked

Personally i think if you can't be at the computer to warp to 0 each time you jump, then having autopilot do it for you, but take more time travelling to the gate, is a good compromise. If you're concerned about your cargo value, then should definitely not use AP.

Post with your main, like a BOSS!

And no, i don't live in highsec.  As if that would make your opinion any less wrong.  
45thtiger 0109
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#76 - 2013-11-28 04:42:23 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Because CCP wants you to play the game, not click a button and come back in 30 minutes.




I always warp to 0 on the gate in high sec.

I do not use AP at all.

OP stop being lazy and just manually warp to 0.

Because if you use AP there is more of a chance that you could be suicide ganked by PirateBig smileP

CCP will not adjust AP to suit your needs at all.

BTW AP is working as intended.Big smile

**You Have to take the good with the bad and the bad with the good.

Welcome to EvE OnLiNe**
Roda 6486B2-0-D
Doomheim
#77 - 2013-11-28 13:10:22 UTC
In my book, auto-pilot is for one thing and one thing only : Alt tabbing to adult sites while still playing the game.
nudge nudge
wink wink
fap fap
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#78 - 2013-11-28 16:14:51 UTC
Of course it's working as intended, I'm just wondering what intention behind it makes sense from a game design perspective that isn't nullified by the warp-to-0 button.
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
#79 - 2013-11-28 17:41:54 UTC
Can we just automate everything? I really hate sitting here and having to hit buttons when I could just log in and have a game play itself for me. Especially when the game is on a computer which is smarter and faster than me. Just have EVE make a ding or buzzer sound every now and then to let me know when I won or lost.
samualvimes
Brothers At Arms
#80 - 2013-11-28 19:14:25 UTC
Autopilot is just that. An automatic pilot.

On a plane the autopilot cannot land it or perform complex actions. As it is in EvE the autopilot can't quite land on a gate at 0.

I've heard the Caldari are working on a solution but they say it's just too hard due to noone caring

If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming.