Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why would they be useless with an 87% web instead of a 90% one?

90% is the only reason people fly this ship. Even 8%, or 9% per level, makes these ships ABSOLUTELY USELESS.

I think that point has been made repeatedly, over and over, by multiple people. There are always going to be a few dissenters who oppose this point, but I think the point has been made, and I hope CCP listens.

That just point hta some peopel are overreactign and whinnign without using the mother of all truth, the MATH

No, people don't.

Especially in PvP.

260 m/s is too much - again, you are not understanding WHY people fly these ships. A 74% web is useless for a ship of this price. People would just fly ships with double-web.

The new bonus yet undisclosed to replace th e onld one?

Because I am yet to see anyone claiming ccp would make the vindicator be the only pirate ship with 2 bonuses only.

This is true.
And 300 DPS raildevils are a bad idea. Just keep the web bonus and change a damage bonus to sensor damp bonus or something.

Following the current trend on game balance, The vindicator will get a 100% RANGE bonus to TARGET PAINTERS!!!!

I think there's a couple of problems with you OP, but I can see that there's a bit of confusion stemming from how quickly the question got answered in a AMA format.

I'll start by confirming that some kind of change to the Serpentis and Blood Raider web bonus is something we have been thinking about for a while.

Web strength bonuses are some of the most powerful bonuses available to any ship, which makes them very interesting and valuable but also makes some of their results problematic. Interestingly, the way the strength of the bonus presents itself is very different in different contexts. At the frigate level with the Daredevil, the power of 90% webs primarily comes from range control. At the battleship level with the Vindicator it primarily comes from transversal control (especially when used as a force multiplier). At the cruiser level it falls in the middle and ends up being (relatively speaking) less powerful and less oppressive as a result.
I am not going to try to claim that we have our plan of action worked out, and there will be plenty of discussion before we implement our Pirate ship balance pass.

One thing I can say for sure though is that we consider the solo Daredevil and the force multiplier Vindicator to both be too strong in their current states, and that we recognize that the primary source of their disproportionate power is the web bonus (for different reasons as I said above).

Another thing I can say for sure is that we will never base our design decisions on what Nyancat has stockpiled or not stockpiled.