Warfare & Tactics

This tbh.

IMO it should be looked into, what a ****** way to go.

If anyone doubt's Bob FromMarketing's clames, read this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=224862

When my group made the initial discovery over a year ago, we petitioned and asked and got the response 'this is definitely an unintended abuse of game mechanics, i will push this further' when other groups started to find out, we posted it on the forums;

Having tested it on sisi, the warp speed changes (using for example a proteus with warp speed rigs + subsystem) you can currently get into and out of warp with easily enough time to bump any titan or supercarrier.

I spoke with a shadow cartel friend hours before the planned op:

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Every super is no longer safe logging out at a POS. Maybe now CCP will consider it an issue, and take the time needed to fix it.

-Rock

You cannot do anything, because you are technically still in warp, so you cannot cancel the warp, light cyno etc

Ship bumping is **** and unrealistic. Only reason CCP won't do anything is because they can't

I can basically reiterate everything that Rocket, as well as a lot of other PL duders have said, and confirm that it is a "nono" from the GMs.

I've used this tactic before on sisi (testserver != tq), but the mechanics on that server are still the same. After doing it enough times, it was sisi so a lot more lenient on the rules for things like this, we got warned by a GM that this was an exploitable act, and threatened with a ban.

But when you go ahead and do it on TQ, it is seen as an exploit.

Remember way back when AHARM and RnK were duking it out, and you had the issue of infinite gun range with AHARM's side. Turns out that it wasn't seen originally as an exploit, because it wasn't really used, and if it was, the usage would've been almost none seeable.

Turns out, once RnK experienced it, went and did all the month on what was happening, and gave all that to CCP, it was deemed an exploit of a perfectly valid game mechanic. Bumping people in ewarp is no different. Sure, it's a valid game mechanic, so was the negative numbers w/ the c6 magnatars. While that gave people perfect hits at infinite range, this makes it so that a titan isn't allowed to do anything except deal with the fact it's getting bumped and will have a low death ensue.

So, CCP definitely needs to go through these mechanics and fix them as well as deem this as an exploit. Because if they flat out say it's not, that gives people like PL and PHEW the ability to do this without worrying about a ban at all.

My suggestion would be to do something along the lines of making any Super class hull a "Large Collidable Object" on login, so if anything does land on it to bump it, the super will act similar to POS towers, Stargates, Stations, and won't be affected by the bumps. This should only be limited to the ewarp phase itself, and once it's out of ewarp, that status condition (if you can call it that) should be gone, so the titan acts like it always has when bumps come into account.

Crosi

You seem to be really mad/jealous.

why so?

Ah ok I get it...you are just dumb.

I agree with you if a ship logs off in a safe. However there should be no e-warp if you safe log in a tower. Imagine logging out in a station then being e-warped to it. What is the point of logging off in a tower if you can't log in safely?

I understand that, and I believe this is one of the things which is causing confusion. From my understanding numerous people have petitioned and asked if catching a super and bumping to prevent e-warp, resulting in a kill is a legitimate tactic.

The responses have said no.

So the petition responses contradict what CCP Masterplan said, although he makes no specific comment about bumping.

And if this is a valid tactic the pilot should at least be able to cancel warp to at least have a chance to fight back/jump out, you have to admit that not being able to do anything in terms of defense is just broken.

Do you even supercap bro?