Warfare & Tactics

Basically, mad cus poor.

here comes the banhammer

Please go so sisi test this for yourself ... You'll find you are sorely mistaken

Either way, seems you should take precautions to prevent people from bumping and killing your riskless supers on login.

If those precautions involve raging on forums, i will accept that. Personally id rather use the mechanic to spawn fights. Its not like PL cant smash SC. Just they are smarter than you so complaining on forums seems like your best choice lol.

In a thread of ironic whining comes the most ironic post so far.

Maybe you should have filed a petition? If you wanted sympathy, this is probably not the place to come.

If i can try to understand.... SC used the current mechanics to probe and bump some scrubs super as it logged in and bumped and dps'd it until it died because it was travel fit, not 'log in fit' as per the new meta?

Thanks for explaining...

Doesnt really help your case. CCP can see (once notified) with very little effort that this particular titan was afforded by market manipulation of FW LP.

As for future situations, perhaps be more careful when you log in supers.

Some facts to clarify some stuff before I go ahead: The e-warp of the ship that logged in can't be bubbled nor superpointed (you can actually superpoint it, but it has no effect). The pilot also can't stop it in any way or do anything to get himself out.

About half a year ago I've written a petition about the tactics/mechanics used today and if they are considered an exploit. The answer I got was something like "We're investigating this and do not recommend killing ships using this method until further notice. The team reserves the right to classify this as an exploit without prior warning."

To me it seems they haven't really thought and decided about it at that time. That's why PL refrained from doing it and personally I was waiting until someone else does it first and this thing gets CCP attention.

Given all that, I think we'll have to wait for a GM response on how they have decided to handle this.

I don't think you understand what happened. This Titan logged off in a POS safe inside the shields. When you log back in though you are put a certain distance away from your previous log out and have to Emergency Warp back to where you logged off. When you are in Emergency warp you can't do ****, you can't stop the warp and jump out, you have to deal with it and have no other choice. So SC took advantage of this, not knowing that other people have already asked CCP if this was ok, but every person who asked was told "not to do it"

There is a reason they made ships immune to tackle while in Ewarp and going around mechanics in a game to get a kill is an Exploit, because it was not intended.

Now I am not saying Ban anyone from Shadow Cartel. But the Titan should be reimbursed.

I am not up to bubbles (lowsec scrub you know) but i thought a bubble on the point where the ship starts his ewarp works? but like i said..lowsec scrub. ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1335076#post1335076 )

But I have to say that yes it is a silly mechanic, you shouldnt be at risk when logging back in. and ib4 "but you are on the KM with two toons" well.. yes.. I am also just a scrub who had no idea what was going on and that is all i will say about this incident.

If i log out safely in a pos, i should be able to log back in safely as well. and if CCP thinks what we did was an exploit then so be it. ill take the licks for that. But the mechanic is broken. quite clearly.

This should be regarded as an exploit for the simple reason that the guy in e-warp has absolutely no recourse from within the game. They're barred, by the e-warp mechanic, from exerting any manner of control over their own ship, ergo the e-warp mechanic should bar them from being interacted with by others. This was clearly the intent, given the fact that they can't be pointed, bubbled, or tackled in any way, they just didn't follow through with the rest of the game's mechanics.