Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I've played Eve off and on over the course of the game's history but never been able to make it stick. Early on the day of my birthday I was invited to a far off system of highsec by my corpies to run missions and mining fleets. I went to Jita and loaded up a cargo ship to the brim with a few ships to have fun with while I was out there. Not 5 seconds from undocking my ship was destroyed and i lost about 600mil. Unknown to me was the rule to not load a ship with that much due to station campers. I must say it is really annoying that I'm paying for a game that I have to play for 2 weeks to gather up ISK just to loose all of it in the blink of an eye. The person who popped me has the same name as his corp. Making the kill rights worthless and he hasn't logged on besides to collect the bounty I placed on him. I have a real life and I don't have time to work backwards. Also I don't have the funds for multiple accounts to rob people in highsec. I can understand that this behavior would be totally acceptable in lowsec but not in a 0.9 system of space. I would compare this to getting mugged outside of the supermarket when you just spent your pay check on groceries.

My suggestion is to make this game more friendly to players like me. Casual players. More separation of PvP and PvE. Make some part of space safe for people to get away from the real world and not get stabbed in the eye by another random player. I'd like to see this game do well because I'm a big sci-fi fan. But I can not in good conscience continue paying for a game that I could loose everything I've worked for in the blink of an eye, simply by putting it in space for the first time, in a place that is supposedly 'secure'. It's a waste of my time, money and not an experience I want to pay for. There are people out there that take gaming too seriously and that reflects on actions and choices they make in the real world.

I don't pay to be blow up for doing nothing out of the ordinary or attempting to enjoy this game with people that I've met. Also its hard to get to know people in this game due to the fact that anyone can rob me blind if i trust them too much. Not the type of community I would choose to live in so why would I pay for it? The reason this game will never be more than a website banner on WoW game pages is because you pay to loose time.

Welcome to EVE... where PvE activities affect PvP and PvP activities can affect PvE in kind.

If you want to be immune to the unwanted actions of others then you have to give up your ability to affect (both directly and indirectly) people in unwanted ways as well.
From my perspective that means you can never undersell me, sell ships/mods/ammo of any kind to people who are hostile to me, or charge me more than 1 ISK for any item i buy from you.


Also... "high-sec" means "high security" and not "total security." It is safer RELATIVE to other areas of the game (low-sec, null-sec, wormholes) but is not, and should not, be safe.

Posting to confirm there's no such thing as "separation of PvE and PvP" in EVE.

When you buy a hauler, you're PvPing against others to see who can get the good-priced ships and fittings first.

When you fly to Jita, you're PvPing against other traders to see who can get there before the best deals are gone and you're PvPing against gankers to see if they kill you or not.

When you undock from Jita with your ship full of loot, you're PvPing against others to see if you can escape before they do - thus shifting the risk of gank elsewhere. You're also PvPing against the gankers to see if you can escape before they kill you.

Short answer: Get an insta-undock, tank your hauler, don't load it with 8x its value in cargo and stop asking to have EVE padded and bubble-wrapped for your safety.

Day trading is probably some of the harshest and most brutal PvP EVE has to offer. Just a thought.

Oh, well then.

He could probably play...uhh...


Guys? What's a game it's physically impossible to lose at?

Checkers.

Nope. Objective is to "kill" the opponent's pieces without losing his own.

Tic-Tac-Toe.

Nope. Being impossible to win can often be the same as losing.

Dress-up game.

Nope. There are some colors and patterns that should never go together.

Life.

You failed at this the moment you tried EVE. You failed even harder when you "gave up" in it.

X series aint even safe these days, the new game practically ganks itself every 20 minutes from what i hear.

Great...wasted my money on this damn game...again. Thanks CCP I'm glad someone is happy with the backstabbing game they made. Good bye Eve...forever. Have fun everyone!

Call me old fashioned, but I'd rather invent a story about me going to africa to cure AIDS before admitting that I just did the rage quit over something that only exists on a server maintained by a company that in theory could just decide to do something else entirely...

Rather than rage quitting, learn up on it. Eve is a great game because it is so in depth, complex, and for the most part, free form.

Yup, sometimes people get screwed by it.... and sometimes they do things that become Eve Legend.



*Inserts line about Jita and more wretched Hive of Scum and Villiany*