EVE General Discussion

That's an awful lot of extremely bizarre what it's for such a little fella.

As stated before in most cases the ransom payer will simply buy a PLEX with ISK and donate it via contract to the PLEX for Good character created for this purpose by CCP. All Marmite has to do to confirm this is to check their contract history.

Simple as can be.

If they collect a smaller amount directly (for those that could not afford a whole PLEX) as they said they were willing to do they simply accumulate the ISK and buy a PLEX or send it through one of the various 3rd party services doing the same thing. All of which is easily checked by CCP.

In your last question, if you are simply ISK begging and make no mention of PLEX for Good... quite frankly no one cares.

Far fetched what if scenarios can be addictive... and also tend to be a silly and annoying waste of everyone's time.

You are suggesting an ideal world that Eve isn't.

This applies to anyone/corp/alliance that extorts in the name of P4G and not just Marmite (who might do the right thing). The potential for easy scamming is so obvious I am surprised that you can not see it, did you come straight from the bonus room?

Uh-oh, somebody's out there decing people for fun and profit. CCP better raise the costs/nerf aggression again for the sake of the new players.

/facepalm.

Seriously, think about it.

If someone runs a scam on you, or imitates Marmites creative extortion, in the name of PLEX for GOOD you'll make an inquiry to CCP via petition or make a thread here about it to raise attention.

A few people try to scam for personal gain every time one of the PLEX for good events happens, and subsequently get reported, investigated, and banned. In fact, a few days ago someone created a PLEX for GOOD character in an NPC corp and was reported immediately.

Direct ISK transfers and convo logs are extremely easy for CCP to investigate when they have a reporting party giving them all the details of time/characters involved/etc. necessary to quickly locate the event in question.

Anyone trying to actually scam one of these events is a rank amateur, because everyone else is aware of how ridiculously easy it would be to get caught and banned.

Pretty much what I said a few pages ago.

I see where you are coming from, but frankly if it doesn't involve a money/isk/or goods transfer that is directly linked with the PLEX for Good effort I think it's all fair game.

A trust based scam has the advantage that a victim does not realise that they are a victim, they never complain. If someone trusts the third party enough to 'not shoot' and hands over the cash then there will never be a petition but there will be a scam if the cash is not passed on to the good cause.
The victim will never know if the cash is passed on or not but trusts that it has been because they weren't shot, the scammer demonstrated that they are a 'man' of their word. That requires CCP to be proactive in hunting the scam rather than reactive by expecting petitions.

If CCP had said that no one (with noted exceptions) may act as a third party for P4G then everyone knows what to report, it is simple and straight forward, an obvious line not to cross. That would not stop a corp/alliance from having an operation or campaign that donated its proceeds to a good cause but it would stop 'give me x and I'll pass it on, honest'.

Given CCP's recent history of scam spotting the 'throw caution to the wind' approach to charitable donations is a little odd. Allowing people to obtain isk/Plex in the name of Plex for good on the basis that they can be trusted to pass it on is an entirely unnecessary risk.

So... you're getting a discount to end a war, and the proceeds goto a worthy irl cause.

win/win?

I think this is what the forums refer to as "Emergent Gameplay".

If you want to roleplay it, just pretend the Marmite Collective is trying to offset some of the SOE's costs in their efforts helping those displaced by Sansha's Incursions. There, now everyones happy.

Methinks you are the one reading to much in things, really.
Step back and read what you wrote.

CCP Falcon:


Real World:


Seems legit, no?

D.

Good to see Marimite is learning what we in the New Order have learned. You can gank someone for lolz and maybe get tears. But gank them for a reason and its Katy bar the door on the tear tsunami. The pilots who just gank "for fun" are really missing out. So now Marimite wardecs with a purpose and glorious tears are the immediate result. Take note scallywags of New Eden.