EVE General Discussion

/facepalm I'll say this in a way stupid can understand. Why do I have to explain every little detail I swear common sense is gone.. Is it a bad thing that they are doing? No. Is it bad if they kept it for themselves? No..... *Here comes the part of common sense that I figured didn't have to be reiterated* Unless they actually sent that message or said they were doing it for PLEX for good. Then ban their asses..

My first post was just to say that this dude was being wardecced and he whined like a little *****..

The OP would lead one to believe that if they demanded a sum for themselves to drop the war dec that would be perfectly okay, but specifying that the ISK be donated to charity is bad.

At what point did that remotely make sense to you?

Nobody cares if you are "blackmailed" out of ISK (by the way, it's not called blackmail in this circumstance... it's called terms of surrender).

Now if you had to pay cash to make a donation you might have a point... but you don't. Your donation would be in ISK. You do realize that right?

Holy crap, get a grip.

Marmite is only dangerous to noobships and shuttles, use a neutral alt to do your tradehub business and Marmite ceases to exist. Problem solved.

yeah lawl totally, lawl.

To bad i'm in an npc corp and all i do fly around in low sec and null if at all. But hey, we lawld, right... lawlawl Lets not acknowledge that people could have for once an opinion on something that doesn't affect them directly.

Eve treats blackmail, extortion and other illegal activities as part of the game. Many games don't, but this is a large part of the draw of eve for many players. There are plenty of other games that would ban this sort of activity, but thats why its being done here, not there. Just because someone plays a villain in game does not make them a bad person in real life.

Op I understand how you feel. They decked us too however, they are harmless. You could fight them with a slop fitted welp fleet and win with minimal casualties. I am giving my money to a homless veteran here in America, because in my set of morals I believe that you have to help yourselfs before you can help others. 60,000 homless veterans in America yet we can send help to other countries and fight 2 wars (I fought in Iraq 09-10 mind you) yet we cannot seem to take care of our homless.

Make no mistake, I am a patriot of my country however, the bigger picture has been overlooked for quite some time. (This statement is to the RL) We need to quit this rediculous bickering and become the United People of Earth. We need to look to the stars instead fighting over material posessions. If this planet could come together and form a bond of understanding for one another, we could progress as a unified people. Yes there will be disagreements, however a wise man once said that "compromise is a decision that neither party are happy with". If the planet was united, sending relief to that area of the planet wouldn't be anything but a natural reaction. However hatred and jealousy prevail along with self entitled behavior and corruption. Again OP I do understand.

So my understanding of this is that Marmite are doing exactly what they usually do, but donating a large fraction of the take to PLEX for Good?

Marmite is your typical risk-averse hisec wardec alliance. So OBVIOUSLY the solution would be to kill as many Marmites as you can, sell their loot, and buy yourself a PLEX to get rid of the guilty feeling.

In all seriousness, trying to make another person feel guilty is just human nature, it happens IRL al the time. Ever had somebody at the front door collecting funds against cancer research? Ever gave a cuppa or a sandwich to a homeless person? Ever saw a fundraising ad? It's all the same. Please donate or we make you feel like a jerk. Very common concept in today's marketing, and entirely appropriate behaviour for Eve Online.

This actually makes me see Marmite in a different light. I considered them risk-averse hisec scum before, scurrying little carebears that dock at the slightest threat. This initiative may not put them on the map as anything else, but at least the forces driving them are evidently positive ones.

I hate it too when people try and manipulate me emotionally. On the other hand raising awareness about global matters is never a bad thing. As long as this is done with a smile on people's faces (without personal attacks on someone that doesn't play along) I have no problem with it, and applaud Marmite for this creative combination of content generation and fundraising.

lol, come at me bro.


On a more serious note, I'll reiterate:

Corporate extortion via demand for payment to cease hostilities is a valid game mechanic.

If this valid game mechanic is being used as a method of raising ISK for a good cause, then CCP will not intervene.

If, however, people don't follow through on their word with this and the proceeds don't go to PLEX for GOOD as promised, then there'll be issues, because it's regarded as a scam.

Bookmarking this for the purpose of education of future generations.