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Is there any methods to decrease "Signature radius" of own ship?
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Venus Sunshine
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-11-27 12:43:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Venus Sunshine
As i understand, "Signature radius" is the only passive attribute that represent my protection against "Target locking".
So is there any Skills or Modules that will decrease my "Signature radius", i.e. making me harder to lock.

I need methods, which doesn't force me to targetlock enemy myself, i.e. passive/activatable.

For example: there is "Warp Core stabilizer" which passively protects me agains Warp disruptors.
Is there any smth like, but for Anti-targetting.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-11-27 12:57:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
There are actually very few ways to do this.

* The Halo implant set.
* The X-Instinct booster.
* A fleet booster in your fleet running the Evasive Maneuvers warfare link.
* Interceptors get a signature radius reduction when using microwarpdrives.
* Wolf-rayet wormhole effects (slightly impractical to carry around with you though).

I believe this is all of them, if I'm missing something someone will surely correct me.

However these are all very incremental effects, and won't make you get targeted slower by more than a second or two. Fitting your ship to warp away faster than an enemy can lock you is much more feasible.

Generally you would want to reduce your signature radius to take less damage from missiles or to better avoid turret hits, which are much bigger benefits.
Venus Sunshine
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-11-27 13:12:28 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Fitting your ship to warp away faster than an enemy can lock you is much more feasible.

This means lower "Inertia modifier" ? or how else i can improve Warp away speed?
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-11-27 13:13:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
A combination of low mass, low inertia modifier (which together affect your align speed), and high acceleration (which affects how fast can you get to the 75% warp threshold).

Combine these with tactics such as MWD-to-warp, MJD-to-warp, MWD-cloak trick, or a webbing alt for maximum efficiency.
Lilliana Stelles
#5 - 2013-11-27 13:14:04 UTC
This may or may not be along your line of thinking:

There's ECM burst and target lockbreakers.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ECM_Burst_II
http://eve.battleclinic.com/item_database.php?id=i4409

While they don't affect sig radius, they can force people to unlock you without you having to target them.

ECM burst is a flat area of effect while target spectrum breaker increases in effect when more people lock you.

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Venus Sunshine
Doomheim
#6 - 2013-11-27 13:15:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Venus Sunshine
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
A combination of low mass, low inertia modifier (which together affect your align speed), and high acceleration (which affects how fast can you get to the 75% warp threshold).

thx.


Lilliana Stelles wrote:
This may or may not be along your line of thinking:

There's ECM burst and target lockbreakers.

Actually no, i'm not interested in lockbreaking. I need lock preventing. But anyway thx.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#7 - 2013-11-27 13:21:35 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
(good stuff).


Wasn't there also a skill ... or did it only apply to the penalties for rigs/MWD?

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Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-11-27 13:37:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
Velicitia wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
(good stuff).


Wasn't there also a skill ... or did it only apply to the penalties for rigs/MWD?

Correct, Shield Rigging will lower the signature radius penalty (i.e. decrease your signature radius) when fitting shield rigs. I am not aware of a MWD sig bloom reducing skill other than the Interceptor skill for the namesake ship class.
Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#9 - 2013-11-27 14:18:39 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Velicitia wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
(good stuff).


Wasn't there also a skill ... or did it only apply to the penalties for rigs/MWD?

Correct, Shield Rigging will lower the signature radius penalty (i.e. decrease your signature radius) when fitting shield rigs. I am not aware of a MWD sig bloom reducing skill other than the Interceptor skill for the namesake ship class.


Just as a side note, Assault Frigates and Heavy Assault Cruisers have a 50% MWD sig reduction. Not an actual skill, but if you like flying that way (tanking via sig/speed), then you may want to look at these ships.

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Thomas Builder
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-11-27 15:42:08 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
* Interceptors get a signature radius reduction when using microwarpdrives.
Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:
Just as a side note, Assault Frigates and Heavy Assault Cruisers have a 50% MWD sig reduction. Not an actual skill, but if you like flying that way (tanking via sig/speed), then you may want to look at these ships.
Just to be clear: these things will not reduce your base signature radius.

When using a MWD, your signature radius will increase tremendously - these ships reduce that penalty, so the increase isn't as big. But you will still have a bigger sig radius with your MWD running than without it.

In general, there isn't very much you can do, Abdiel already listed all the means there are.

Of course, there's also the ultimate lock preventer: a cloak. While it doesn't lower your sig radius, people cannot target what they can't see, so this might help you achieve whatever you are trying to achieve.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#11 - 2013-11-27 15:54:00 UTC
Deadspace (not sure about faction) MWD have a smaller signature bloom penalty. It is common to fit a deadspace MWD on an Interceptor for this reason.
Karynn Denton
Lekhantsi Salvage Depot
#12 - 2013-11-27 17:34:02 UTC
X-Instinct is a combat-enhancement booster which lowers sig radius without any stacking penalties to your existing skills and mods.

And as luck would have it, my corp manufactures and sells it in Synth and Standard strength!
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Karynn Denton

Caravan Master