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Vamprina Maximus
Equity Nuclear
#1 - 2013-11-27 05:44:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Vamprina Maximus
Someone just bought a single shuttle from me for 50 million... How is this possible when the price is 16k?


I couldn't find a way to alter the price as I bought something... I would like to know so I don't accidentally buy a shuttle myself
Rodrigo Dedecus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-11-27 06:37:20 UTC
Well a few days ago, i was searching through market, almost put a buy order for one item, but then changed my mind. The next item I did want to set a buy order for, I accidentally grabbed the old buy order form and used it for the buy order. Fortunately it only cost me 100m. I assume it was just a stupid mistake like that, or else someone really wanted to make your day.
Joan Greywind
The Lazy Crabs
#3 - 2013-11-27 06:56:28 UTC
The market ui has some very stupid drawbacks. For instance let us say item x has lowest sell order of 5m. Now if I set up a buy order and mistakely put 40m in the price tab instead of 4m (my intended price) I will buy from the lowest sell order which is 5m, but end up paying 40m to the seller. Same thing applies in reverse when you are setting a sell order. I know it is stupid and the fix should be easy, but you know, CCP.
Vamprina Maximus
Equity Nuclear
#4 - 2013-11-27 07:24:15 UTC
OK thanks,

I was worried I might purchase something at 1000000% what it was priced at... I guess most likly is a buy order screwup then.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#5 - 2013-11-27 09:54:04 UTC
If you don't use the simple screen for buying stuff:
a: you'll pay a broker fee
b: you can set a higher price. You'll buy from the person with the lowest price, and they'll get a nice bonus on top.


Now, one benefit of this is, you can buy from more than a single sell order this way. It may cost you a little more, but it's less clicking.

You never buy directly from anyone. You give your broker instructions, and they do it for you. Working as intended.

Helps if you don't get rid of the 'you're buying at 1000% of the local average' window.

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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
#6 - 2013-11-27 10:14:08 UTC
Another solely technical reason might be difference in local settings vs. EVE standard (English in this case), when it comes to fractional number separator ( "." e.g. 100.23 in English vs. "," e.g. 100,23 in German). I know this is supposed to be fixed a long time ago, but resorted to use the English "." again (playing on a German system, using English as client's language), because

I remember something didn't work properly when using my (system's) native settings. EVE did mistake the "," as a decimal separator and thus ignored it and I ended up with a much higher figure than intended. Unfortunately I don't remember exactly what happened, might be an inconsistency with ingame entering numbers vs. pasting (floating point) numbers from clipboard. But it was weird enough that I rather abstain from the convinience of using the numeric keypad's "," when entering numbers than falling prey to such a glitch.

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Dextrome Thorphan
#7 - 2013-11-27 10:14:12 UTC
Joan Greywind wrote:
The market ui has some very stupid drawbacks. For instance let us say item x has lowest sell order of 5m. Now if I set up a buy order and mistakely put 40m in the price tab instead of 4m (my intended price) I will buy from the lowest sell order which is 5m, but end up paying 40m to the seller. Same thing applies in reverse when you are setting a sell order. I know it is stupid and the fix should be easy, but you know, CCP.


It is intentional, hence no fix.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-11-27 10:29:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
Joan Greywind wrote:
The market ui has some very stupid drawbacks. For instance let us say item x has lowest sell order of 5m. Now if I set up a buy order and mistakely put 40m in the price tab instead of 4m (my intended price) I will buy from the lowest sell order which is 5m, but end up paying 40m to the seller. Same thing applies in reverse when you are setting a sell order. I know it is stupid and the fix should be easy, but you know, CCP.

You offered to pay 40M for the item, you bought it for 40M. Working as intended. The broker is not there to find the sweetest deals for you, the broker is there to fulfill your orders as you place them.

The fact that you made a typo and neither visually confirmed the order (or at least the number of digits), nor paid attention to the warning message about paying 1000% above average, is entirely your fault.
Jdestars
Stars Research systems Incorporation
#9 - 2013-11-27 11:58:24 UTC
you can see that with Curve selling price history for each market

also you can use price indication if you have item in hangar ( this price indication its a average price caculate by ccp maybe an ' 7day slippery average" wih an aggregation data market ...
but what's mean calculate average with low /nullsec and high sec market data ???

other method : calculate price with bpo ( mineral need data ) or extract npc baseprice

and dont forget the rules of (irl) market : The good price is the one that the customer is ready to pay
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#10 - 2013-11-27 12:04:10 UTC
Errors like that are usually people who dont have the market sorted by price. Unless it is an obvious extra 0 error.

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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
#11 - 2013-11-27 18:04:45 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Errors like that are usually people who dont have the market sorted by price. Unless it is an obvious extra 0 error.


While that is indeed the most common cause, this case however ...
Vamprina Maximus wrote:
Someone just bought a single shuttle from me for 50 million... How is this possible when the price is 16k?

... sounds more like a failed money transfer (should I say "laundering"?) attempt.

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#12 - 2013-11-27 18:19:08 UTC
There are often extremely high priced items on the market.

Case in point, this mail I got.

FROM: Randomguy
"Sent: 2012.03.01 01:24
To: ME

I recently went to dodixie to buy a rifter and i acciendly bought you 300m rifter on the market.....

I know you will probs laugh at this and think free cash but I'm a new player and that was all my money and its a easy mistake to make....

So if your kind enough is there any chance you could return my 298million? :/

Anyway even if you dont have fun with your new 300mil....."

(No, I did not keep his iskies)


It can be isk laundering, but, where I am now, there are 3 amarr shuttles on the market for 46m. I am guessing Jita also has a number of very pricey shuttles.

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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
#13 - 2013-11-28 01:31:26 UTC
Dodixie and you had the only Rifters in the market? How many did you have to buy up for that to work? Big smile

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Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#14 - 2013-11-28 02:50:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
None.

I just had the top order

The 300m rifter was not mine.

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