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Caldari Brothers! We need your help!

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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#21 - 2013-11-27 03:05:44 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
Any Pvpers/FCs leaving Innia to Heyd would be handing the Gals in Eha a get out of jail free card. (Which is what the Gallente want - hence creating the distraction in a backwater near their high sec).
Excuse me, OMG started this thread - not us. Big smile (There would be no "distraction" if they simply would just go back to Ladistier where they belong)

If I were starting this thread with a Caldari alt, I would mention the fact that we (Caldari) only outnumber Gallente a paltry 4:1 and that we need even more to take Heydieles.


Where did I say you started the thread or that it was an alt post?
I was simply explaining to the dude why not many have headed up that way.

You gals would run riot in the AU TZ if Caldari State Capturing and/or BORG left Innia.
Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-11-27 03:22:13 UTC
Zen Lena wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
Zen Lena wrote:
I have been through Innia and Caldari has as many as 120 in local. Your non peak time looks to have 50. Virtually every major Caldari alliance and corp is holed up into that system fighting what looks to be 20 -30 people next door in Eha. It's very easy to spare resources to help Old Man Gang.



Any Pvpers/FCs leaving Innia to Heyd would be handing the Gals in Eha a get out of jail free card. (Which is what the Gallente want - hence creating the distraction in a backwater near their high sec).

And with my alliances numbers - we don't have spare resources.



If you cannot spare a few pilots to help your fellow militia mates, Old Man Gang, while still holding your own against the Eha corps who are a quarter of your size, then I'm at lost for words. I've seen fleets from Innia attack Eha with 30 pilots and smacking Gallente who have maybe 5 people in local. That's a horrible allocation of resources. You could've used those same resources for Heyd which seems to constantly be above 70%.



1)Confirming that during the late AU/China timezone we usually only have <10 pilots in fleet at any given time. It's a rare day when we have more than 10 Ugh

2) We don't need no stinking "get out jail free" card. That would imply we're stressing or in some kind of trouble about Eha, but seeing as we're doing JUST(k) fine that would be called propoganda Shocked

3) He's right. You better help your Russian friends before it's too late. They may decide that fighting for Gallente is better because well...you know...we actually fight for our home systems Pirate

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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#23 - 2013-11-27 04:47:41 UTC
Yun Kuai wrote:
Zen Lena wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:
Zen Lena wrote:
I have been through Innia and Caldari has as many as 120 in local. Your non peak time looks to have 50. Virtually every major Caldari alliance and corp is holed up into that system fighting what looks to be 20 -30 people next door in Eha. It's very easy to spare resources to help Old Man Gang.



Any Pvpers/FCs leaving Innia to Heyd would be handing the Gals in Eha a get out of jail free card. (Which is what the Gallente want - hence creating the distraction in a backwater near their high sec).

And with my alliances numbers - we don't have spare resources.



If you cannot spare a few pilots to help your fellow militia mates, Old Man Gang, while still holding your own against the Eha corps who are a quarter of your size, then I'm at lost for words. I've seen fleets from Innia attack Eha with 30 pilots and smacking Gallente who have maybe 5 people in local. That's a horrible allocation of resources. You could've used those same resources for Heyd which seems to constantly be above 70%.



1)Confirming that during the late AU/China timezone we usually only have <10 pilots in fleet at any given time. It's a rare day when we have more than 10 Ugh

2) We don't need no stinking "get out jail free" card. That would imply we're stressing or in some kind of trouble about Eha, but seeing as we're doing JUST(k) fine that would be called propoganda Shocked

3) He's right. You better help your Russian friends before it's too late. They may decide that fighting for Gallente is better because well...you know...we actually fight for our home systems Pirate



Confirming we have 3-6 people in the AU tz most nights and JUSTKomplain have 10 and sometimes more (Source of figures - Yun Kuai) Cool


I went and helped the Russians a few weeks ago. If circumstances were different - I would be there again.

You should also know that we are a very small alliance with very few members. We can't spread out like larger groups do.
However I do excuse you for thinking we are much larger by how often JUSTKompletely we hand your arses to you.

If they went Gallente it wont effect me at all.
You should know by now that we are immune to most things that happen in FW.

Eha is fine and no one has evaced already right Yun????





Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-11-27 05:30:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Silverbackyererse
Game and first set Ibanez. Lol

BTW, do the great unwashed (looking at you Gallente) consider Heydieles to count as a "home system" now?
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#25 - 2013-11-27 06:18:06 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:
Where did I say you started the thread or that it was an alt post?

You were implying the Gallente were using Heyd as a diversion..... just sayin'
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#26 - 2013-11-27 06:21:12 UTC
Silverbackyererse wrote:
Game and first set Ibanez. Lol

BTW, do the great unwashed (looking at you Gallente) consider Heydieles to count as a "home system" now?

I would say "newly liberated homestead" - but it seems like the Gallente living there are turning it into something more.
Zen Lena
#27 - 2013-11-27 09:28:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Zen Lena
I'm not sure why you keep referencing your AU TZ corp when the conversation is about the allocation of how an entire militia puts all its eggs into one basket when it doesn't need to. If you need a couple thousand pilots just to take on a few hundred pilots in one system and haven't gotten close to vulnerable like OMG has for Heyd, then that is a poor strategic decision by FCs/CEO such yourself and others.
Garan Nardieu
Super Serious Fight Club
#28 - 2013-11-27 10:41:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Garan Nardieu
IbanezLaney
Confirming we have 3-6 people in the AU tz most nights and JUSTKomplain have 10 and sometimes more (Source of figures - Yun Kuai) [:8) wrote:


From what I remember, before test joined and brought borg back, in your tz we were quite evenly matched (i.e. neither group had number advantage) - and that was on weekends.

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If they went Gallente it wont effect me at all.
You should know by now that we are immune to most things that happen in FW.

If OMG were to switch sides it would effect you directly actually. They have been one of rare groups giving very good fights in their home systems, so imagine what would happen if we had them+all the resources they tie up liberated? Personally I would not mind having more Russians in Galmil. They are a resilient bunch, unlike many westerners.

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Eha is fine and no one has evaced already right Yun????

Considering the circumstances, I'd say we're (GalMil) doing an outstanding job in Eha. Not saying it won't fall, but I doubt it will be fast or easy. As for evac, dunno who has or has not moved their stuff, but if they did - they must be silly. It's not that hard to move with all the neutral alts/BF and alike services available. It is a pita, but that's all (you know best, don't you P). We're not in null v0v.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#29 - 2013-11-27 10:50:32 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:

If they went Gallente it wont effect me at all.
You should know by now that we are immune to most things that happen in FW.


It will affect you so that if they left there wouldn't be a single decent PVPer left in CalMil

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Super Chair
Project Cerberus
Templis CALSF
#30 - 2013-11-27 11:20:57 UTC
The fact that damar and silverback get 50 nerds to chase two of them all day for hours on end everyday is astounding. While keeping heyd contested so high for so long. I imagine if that once heyd got over 90% and the caldari just jumped carriers full of plexing ships to yvangier (a neutral lowsec system 1 jump from heyd where you can dock :D) for a few hours the system would fall easily.
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2013-11-27 11:37:42 UTC
Super Chair wrote:
The fact that damar and silverback get 50 nerds to chase two of them all day for hours on end everyday is astounding. While keeping heyd contested so high for so long. I imagine if that once heyd got over 90% and the caldari just jumped carriers full of plexing ships to yvangier (a neutral lowsec system 1 jump from heyd where you can dock :D) for a few hours the system would fall easily.


That's exactly what they are doing, but there's never been more than 20 GalMil guys in Heyd/Oms fleets, of which half are picking their noses somewhere or watching kitten pron.

Damar's input to Heyd offensive has been limited to raging uncontrollably in local about raping babies or other similar seriously disturbed ****, and then logging off.



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m3rcurial
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#32 - 2013-11-27 12:09:03 UTC
Roime wrote:
Super Chair wrote:
The fact that damar and silverback get 50 nerds to chase two of them all day for hours on end everyday is astounding. While keeping heyd contested so high for so long. I imagine if that once heyd got over 90% and the caldari just jumped carriers full of plexing ships to yvangier (a neutral lowsec system 1 jump from heyd where you can dock :D) for a few hours the system would fall easily.


That's exactly what they are doing, but there's never been more than 20 GalMil guys in Heyd/Oms fleets, of which half are picking their noses somewhere or watching kitten pron.

Damar's input to Heyd offensive has been limited to raging uncontrollably in local about raping babies or other similar seriously disturbed ****, and then logging off.





What can you say about ~20 cald vs 40+gals in local who plexed 2 installations couple days ago?
ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2013-11-27 15:13:24 UTC
Since gallente are getting their butts kicked everytime they show up anywhere else, they're now only assaulting systems close to their stagings. Makes reshipping faster, I guess. Heyd is one jump from OMS, and frankly, with the rest of calmil busy cleaning up eha, enaluri, nenna and the like, we don't have the time to help a few RPers. We'll get there, don't worry, but not now.
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#34 - 2013-11-27 15:22:31 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Since gallente are getting their butts kicked everytime they show up anywhere else, they're now only assaulting systems close to their stagings. Makes reshipping faster, I guess. Heyd is one jump from OMS, and frankly, with the rest of calmil busy cleaning up eha, enaluri, nenna and the like, we don't have the time to help a few RPers. We'll get there, don't worry, but not now.


I hate to agree with Zheo... but he's right. The majority of CalMil, TEST + Templis (biggest alliance in CalMil I believe now), are assaulting the Nenn/Vlill area.

And you have the audacity to say GalMil is out blobbing you.
Garan Nardieu
Super Serious Fight Club
#35 - 2013-11-27 17:02:53 UTC
Confirming that GalMil staging systems are in Gallente hisec RollRollRoll
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#36 - 2013-11-27 17:10:09 UTC
Garan Nardieu wrote:
Confirming that GalMil staging systems are in Gallente hisec RollRollRoll


WHAT! WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN!?! WHY DIDN'T ANYONE TELL ME!?! I quit.
Marcel Devereux
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#37 - 2013-11-27 17:11:01 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Since gallente are getting their butts kicked everytime they show up anywhere else, they're now only assaulting systems close to their stagings. Makes reshipping faster, I guess. Heyd is one jump from OMS, and frankly, with the rest of calmil busy cleaning up eha, enaluri, nenna and the like, we don't have the time to help a few RPers. We'll get there, don't worry, but not now.


Just RPers and not dirty RPers? I'm insulted that you think that highly of us.
YoYoMommy
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#38 - 2013-11-27 18:07:32 UTC
Confirming @Marcel is in fact not only a standard RPer but a dirty RPer. :P
ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-11-27 18:24:19 UTC
Marcel Devereux wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Since gallente are getting their butts kicked everytime they show up anywhere else, they're now only assaulting systems close to their stagings. Makes reshipping faster, I guess. Heyd is one jump from OMS, and frankly, with the rest of calmil busy cleaning up eha, enaluri, nenna and the like, we don't have the time to help a few RPers. We'll get there, don't worry, but not now.


Just RPers and not dirty RPers? I'm insulted that you think that highly of us.

Glory to the state etc
Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2013-11-28 01:52:16 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Marcel Devereux wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Since gallente are getting their butts kicked everytime they show up anywhere else, they're now only assaulting systems close to their stagings. Makes reshipping faster, I guess. Heyd is one jump from OMS, and frankly, with the rest of calmil busy cleaning up eha, enaluri, nenna and the like, we don't have the time to help a few RPers. We'll get there, don't worry, but not now.


Just RPers and not dirty RPers? I'm insulted that you think that highly of us.

Glory to the state etc



Funny, on the fact that, how a guy who just flies around in a manticore all day running FW missions has so much perspective on the real situation. You do know that killing Gallente NPC vs real Galmil Players is not the same thing right?

*Yun Kuai hands Zheo a rope so he can get out before he gets sucked in to deep in the FW fanboy base*

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