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Mobile Depot - Game Breaking Feature

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Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#161 - 2013-11-26 17:35:25 UTC
I know, I'm sorry, I'll stop offering solutions.

CCP should just nerf mobile depots. Make mobile depots not allow you to change your fit. It's the only way.
Anslo
Scope Works
#162 - 2013-11-26 17:35:43 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Infinity, you are NOT a PvPer. Don't insult us by saying you are. You're a gankbear. That's it. A PvPer looks for fights, gudfites. Gankbears look for ganks, easy kills, and pews.
It's people like you that get PvPers a bad rep for being psychos.

Sorry but in EVE we don't play paladin and pirate. Everyones a pirate. You don't look for fair fights here, you look for advantages. Wrong game for you I think.

Who cares about paladin or pirate? I'm saying pvpers look for fights they may or may not win. PvPers dont hunt carebears or people who can't fight back for lulz.
Most importantly, PvPers don't ***** on the forums that they can't kill a carebear easily.

If you want easy kills, I suggest WoW or WoT.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#163 - 2013-11-26 17:37:36 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
Kill them while their mobile depot gets set up, or right as they're taking it down.


You keep offering common sense solutions.

The thing is, people like Infinity don't want solutions, they want fixes. It doesn't matter that they could figure it out for themselves, they want CCP to do it for them, that's their mindset.


You might be able to change someone's mind, you will never change their mindset.

I should have thought of this. I guess all inties will need to be pyschic and not jump into until they know the target is setting up or taking down their depot. Or perhaps we could have a Setting Up and Taking Down Depot channel where ratters could inform inty pilots when they're about to do that....

Jesus H Obama...

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#164 - 2013-11-26 17:43:27 UTC
Oh, is there no way to tell when they're taking down their depot? That would make things more difficult. I was thinking DSCAN personally.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#165 - 2013-11-26 17:44:00 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Infinity Ziona wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yeah um, 4 pvp fit ships which had to think ahead and plan their fits vs 1 pve ratter. Fugging absolutely 100% they're supposed to win if he can't warp out.

What planning did he do but throw a bunch of just in case mods in a depot. You have zero credibility Jenn. You're simply happy you can now carebear in null in 200% safety instead of the old 100% right?



No, that's 4 PvP ships that haven't put any thought into how to fit their ships in something like a year (Hint, the Apoc could also MJD away from the Intys pretty effectively) losing out on a kill because their target has decided to render himself immobile and take several extra minutes at each and every anom to deploy and scoop a Mobile depot to provide himself with extra safety.


Before the patch, all he had to do to get the same level of safety was "be aligned."

I didn't fit the ships so how did they fail to fit their ships properly?


Ahem.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
LMAO. Simple math. Inties = 1 disruptor. Cynabals = 1 scram each. 6 vs 8 WCS. Fail


Also, you limited yourself to 2 Intys, 2 Cruisers. 1 Inty, 1 Dictor, 2 Cruisers is a much better option for the scenario of "trying to kill the most pathologically well prepared ratter in EVE".

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#166 - 2013-11-26 17:44:03 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Jythier Smith wrote:
Kill them while their mobile depot gets set up, or right as they're taking it down.


You keep offering common sense solutions.

The thing is, people like Infinity don't want solutions, they want fixes. It doesn't matter that they could figure it out for themselves, they want CCP to do it for them, that's their mindset.


You might be able to change someone's mind, you will never change their mindset.

I should have thought of this. I guess all inties will need to be pyschic and not jump into until they know the target is setting up or taking down their depot. Or perhaps we could have a Setting Up and Taking Down Depot channel where ratters could inform inty pilots when they're about to do that....

Jesus H Obama...


So you're saying it's difficult to know when this is happening.

Well, people do say that EVE should be difficult...Wait, that was YOU who said that.

Can you see the double standard? You're saying EVE should be hard for other people , but then YOU always ask for things to be made easier for you. You want no local so you can gank (you said as much in features and ideas), you wanted a place to dock and refit because 72 jumps was too hard. You want CCP to nerf depots because planning ahead and belong creative is too hard.

The last time I witness such unbridled self-centeredness I was in divorce court. Your real name isn't Tammy is it?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#167 - 2013-11-26 17:44:04 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I have a depot deployed. I have 8 heavy neuts. Cap booster. Warrior 2's. 3 webs. 8 WCS. Some sensor damps and the depot filled with Cap Boost 400's.

How do you propose you're going to kill me?

By spotting the depot and picking something other than crows and cynabals. He's prepared; I need to prepare back. Alternatively, I gamble on the DPS the four ships put out. Each needs to deliver 1,000 HP damage to reinforce the thing — a tall:ish order for the crows, but quick enough for the Cynabals.
Paranoid Loyd
#168 - 2013-11-26 17:47:06 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:


Jesus H Obama...


I have watched the degradation and increasing entitlement feeling coming from your posts. You are much too intelligent to be doing anything but trolling at this point. I hope you are enjoying yourself, if you are not please find something else to do.

If you are not trolling it is time to take a long break from the game.

Your posts have stopped making any sense and it is just sad now.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#169 - 2013-11-26 17:48:06 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:


Soloing in eve is an honourable and interesting thing, are you REALLY content to have it nerfed?


A solo Raven pilot used the new mobile depot to defeat OP in a 1v1. Sounds like solo is working just fine.


Evading PvP solo is not the same as fighting solo.

Ratters refitting to PvP modules and not warp core stabs would be a lot less of an issue.

Evading a fight isn't evading PVP.
Evading fights is in of itself PVP.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Ot3ma
#170 - 2013-11-26 17:49:43 UTC
moar tears!

CCP's done a great job of generating both carebear and gankbear tears!
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#171 - 2013-11-26 17:54:27 UTC
All of my mega will be sporting these just because of this thread.
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#172 - 2013-11-26 17:57:53 UTC
People using MDs - not crying.

People against people using MDs - crying

Totes unbalanced!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#173 - 2013-11-26 17:58:32 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
All of my mega will be sporting these just because of this thread.

Yeah, but what are you going to do? Replace all the nanofibres with other nanofibres? P
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#174 - 2013-11-26 18:02:54 UTC
Tacitus wrote:
"When men are full of envy they disparage everything, whether it be good or bad."

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#175 - 2013-11-26 18:08:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
RubyPorto wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Yeah um, 4 pvp fit ships which had to think ahead and plan their fits vs 1 pve ratter. Fugging absolutely 100% they're supposed to win if he can't warp out.

What planning did he do but throw a bunch of just in case mods in a depot. You have zero credibility Jenn. You're simply happy you can now carebear in null in 200% safety instead of the old 100% right?



No, that's 4 PvP ships that haven't put any thought into how to fit their ships in something like a year (Hint, the Apoc could also MJD away from the Intys pretty effectively) losing out on a kill because their target has decided to render himself immobile and take several extra minutes at each and every anom to deploy and scoop a Mobile depot to provide himself with extra safety.


Before the patch, all he had to do to get the same level of safety was "be aligned."

I didn't fit the ships so how did they fail to fit their ships properly?


Ahem.

Infinity Ziona wrote:
LMAO. Simple math. Inties = 1 disruptor. Cynabals = 1 scram each. 6 vs 8 WCS. Fail


Also, you limited yourself to 2 Intys, 2 Cruisers. 1 Inty, 1 Dictor, 2 Cruisers is a much better option for the scenario of "trying to kill the most pathologically well prepared ratter in EVE".

OHHH so now to catch a single ratting ship in eve we require an inty, a dictor and 2 cruisers minimum. I guess we should add a Hictor as well since those pesky T3 can fit nullifiers. Should we perhaps add a titan and a super as well just in case.

I didn't fit inties with disruptors, CCP fit inties with disruptors. Or do you think they should be fitting all their mids with scrams, no prop mod and slowboat around the target?

Arguing with you people is like arguing with the lobotomized.

My last word is - it will be changed, either they will nerf it or they will lose pvp'rs.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#176 - 2013-11-26 18:11:12 UTC
Tippia wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
All of my mega will be sporting these just because of this thread.

Yeah, but what are you going to do? Replace all the nanofibres with other nanofibres? P


I can fit stabs or even take my forever mwd fit with me when using my nano cruiser fit. My mega can adapt on the fly!
Anslo
Scope Works
#177 - 2013-11-26 18:12:03 UTC
Can I have your stuff before you leave for WoW?

(seriously, less QQ, more pewpew)

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#178 - 2013-11-26 18:14:33 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Can I have your stuff before you leave for WoW?

(seriously, less QQ, more pewpew)


How can there be any pewpew when you can't catch anybody?

Don't you understand?? NOBODY WILL EVER FIGHT AGAIN!
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#179 - 2013-11-26 18:16:06 UTC
By the way, maybe I have an outdated version of pyfa, but it sure looks like a bomber can pretty much insta-reinforce a deployed depot…
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#180 - 2013-11-26 18:18:19 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Infinity Ziona wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Also, you limited yourself to 2 Intys, 2 Cruisers. 1 Inty, 1 Dictor, 2 Cruisers is a much better option for the scenario of "trying to kill the most pathologically well prepared ratter in EVE".

OHHH so now to catch a single ratting ship in eve we require an inty, a dictor and 2 cruisers minimum.


No, to kill the most pathologically well prepared ratting battleship in the game, you probably need a Dictor, and maybe some other stuff.

For the more normal well prepared ratting ship, who doesn't immediately drop an MD as soon as he lands on an anom, you just need to do ~18k damage in the first minute (300 average DPS).

EDIT: My mistake, you only need to do ~3750 damage in the first 60s (62.5dps)

Quote:
I didn't fit inties with disruptors, CCP fit inties with disruptors.


I just assembled an Inty hull. Where's my CCP-fitted disruptor?

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon