EVE General Discussion

Before I even start, I know this will be a wildly unpopular thing to say, but like the proverbial elephant in the room, it's something that needs to be addressed.

I'll start off by observing that, as we all know, real money transactions and microtranactions are quickly becoming the Go-To means to monetize an MMO.

It's also clear from CCPs latest debacle, that they're seeking a way to get RMT into eve somehow, to increase income. Their initial effort to put it in directly backfired spectacularly (sadly, but I'll get to that) and so they back doored it via SOMER Blink, This has also proved wildly unpopular (for good reason).

Personally, I think we screwed up with the huge fit over WiS. Character customization and alternate color scheme ships are pretty much the least offensive means I can think of, and if financed by said , the actual amount of dev man hours they would have taken away from anything else would have likely been in the single digits. Further, the increased income would have allowed larger dev teams, leading to getting more content for everything else too.

I think it might behoove us to examine just what sort and level of RMT we'd find acceptable in game before CCP ganks us with it and tells us to HTFU. Because 'none' clearly is not happening,


Edit: Since we meandered for ten posts about "microtransactions and RMT", I've amended the OP to include both, so we can actually address the issue.

OP has no point.

You do know that most RMT money is reinvested n the game. Unless you're EA, that is.




At the rate that it's proliferating across MMOs (and now some Non-MMO genres now), not for long you don't. Some subscription based ones have even started having limited RMT. Most of the newer MMOs, and some that have existed for quite a while now are embracing it to a greater or lesser degree.

Rather than sit with our heads in the sand and wait for **** to happen, I think that the best approach would be to take the initiative and shape the situation ourselves.

Did someone get RMT and Free to Play mixed up??

Last I checked games don't have an expiration date. If they stopped making games tomorrow, I'd still have plenty of other games to play.

Decisions about how to make money off a game are made by the suits at the top. No players or (decent) developers want nickel-and-diming, it happens because there is some greedy **** at the top who doesn't give a **** about the game. "Taking the initiative" won't change what kind of person is in charge of any given game.

No, actually. F2P is usually monetized by a more 'controlled' (Ie the company is the onyl legal vendor) version of RMT.

Microtransactions and RMT are completely different things, and you are in fact talking about the former.

A gaming website and a wikipedia article that contradicts you. Color me convinced.

This has been an entertaining side trip in semantics, but can we please address the point? OP edited so that it includes the words 'microtransactions' to make you happy. Now, to the actual issue.





I agree that it should not convey advantage, which is one of my reasons for being so irritated about the Stratios Emergency Responder, as it's much better than the Stratios. The WoT gold rounds thing actually isn't a good example (they can be bought with in game currency as well) and the advantage is...well.... pretty minimal.

I think that the players need ot create a set of guidelines of what we would find acceptable that CCP can work with. It is a short step from there to gold rounds, but at the same time the whole knee jerk "NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!' response isn't helpful either.

As the history proven time and time again with CCP it's way around: more income from EVE makes them start side projects which draw away devs from EVE but once players start to leave or cancel secondary accounts EVE gets temporary dev attention boost.