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1st Wormhole Alliance Tournament (WHAT)

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Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#81 - 2013-11-12 14:44:26 UTC
Bei ArtJay wrote:
WHAT is this.

Love tournaments, love the idea, love your enthusiasm, but think there are maybe some things that you might not have considered.

Just some general feedback, if you would like some more detail give me a poke would love to have a chat. Need to check with the rest of my corp but I will try and put a team together for this.

- I don't think I have ever read a Garmon post with so little troll, so take heed of what he said! I read the rules first and immediately I thought that two logi would be horrible. 15 vs 15 is not a good solution.

- Banning sentry drones might be an interesting idea. I really am for keeping everything that is allowed on TQ in the arena, but this might be a good space to test out the banning of sentries given that w-space teams corps are not usually the best at kiting and prefer in-your-face brawling PVP.

- The logistics of a tournament in a wormhole of 15 vs 15 sounds really rough. Footwork had to join up with Red Circle inc (so two 100 man corps) to ensure we had enough players for SCL 4 and 5 and that was on SISI which has instant access and no logistical problems (apart form CCP re-setting the server and wiping all your fitted ships). To bring into the WH the amount of ships and people we used for SCL5 (i.e. the most up-to-date meta) would probably consist of around 3 freighter runs. This would not fit in a small POS. 15 vs15 means possibly even more battleships. Depending on the format of your tournament there could be at least a dozen games for the victor? This would mean that winning this competition would almost definitely mean being the most logistically awesome team, not necessarily the best at fighting. So if hauling turns you on - great! If explosions, maybe not so. My suggestion would be for the first tournament to make it 5 vs 5, 50 points and 5 min time-limit. This would allow the format to be tested with-out over burdening the competitors and organisers. Other corpmates can come along to provide 'security'. Another thing to consider is the amount of ISK at stake in such large teams.

- The idea of reserve pilots is an interesting one - especially if the pilot can decide on what ship to bring while the battle is already under-way (within the points/rules limits, scorpion with race specific hardeners/jammers anyone? :p)

- What about the idea of something completely different to normal tournament formats - a 'thunderdome' tournament. So you get all of the corps interested to anchor their small POS and get their ships in (WH enterance location is announced say 4 hours before the start). No stront allowed in the towers. X pilots a side. Free for all, last tower standing wins! Spectators police the WH nothing in/out after the start of the match. No podding allowed (so people can re-ship till they run out of ships). 8 Hour time limit, corp with the most tower kill-mails wins. If there are already residents then that creates some additional fun that you have to deal with.

- Alternative idea - make it like the SCL, have it on SISI (but probably without CCP support), but only w-space corp teams allowed? Make T3's cheap in points to give it a w-space flavour?

Good luck!

p.s. I would like to apply to be a commentator if you are having a stream :p



Here we have a prime example of constructive feedback.
-We are aware that logi ships are an issue, so we're tossing around ideas regarding exactly that.
A solution which is liked by most people in channel is to simply slap on a juicy price on logi boats.

-Sentries. If they're so OP, wouldn't 2 logis balance that out? Everything is connected, so we can't simply nerft DPS without regarding RR. We have to level them somehow.

-Moving into the hole. Teams will have over 2 months to move into a hole which will have a static HS and a static C1 (so technically 2 HS entrances). A strict "no-combat-outside-of-arena" rule will be enforced by forever shunning whoever breaks that rule.
I have it on good authority that people want a *SPECIAL* shiny WH system. Something unique to wSpace, an arena of death where all sorts of games can be organized. Even out-of-tournament engagements!
Forum disputes can be forever settled in that system.

We (myself included) want a system where both hate and love will flow.
A communal hub for all sorts of interactions. A place where wSpace will seem less isolated, where your team's actions can resonate and maybe even come back to bite you in the ass.

The tournament is just a first step!
Mak Droid
Slavers Bay
#82 - 2013-11-14 21:20:23 UTC
What is the first prize?
Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#83 - 2013-11-15 01:37:19 UTC
Mak Droid wrote:
What is the first prize?

A team of highly trained mathematicians came up with this prize formula:
(1 billion ISK * number of participants) + space honor ^ swag
ErrorRon
Turbo-Encabulator LLC
#84 - 2013-11-21 15:03:54 UTC
Bump because I'm curious how this will pan out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtItWL6GfSM CCP Gargant -  Dev of my heart.

Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#85 - 2013-11-21 19:01:16 UTC
I'm workin' on it as much as RL allows me. :/
zar dada
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#86 - 2013-11-21 22:00:17 UTC
Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:
Make it a Black Hole system for leet pvp.


+1

Finally a use for Black Holes.
Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#87 - 2013-11-25 21:58:27 UTC
A hole has been found!
Sith1s Spectre of Sky Fighters has informed me that he had an alt sitting in J171518.
I have put there an alt of mine.

The hole is a C2 with B274/O477 statics (HS and C3), 54 moons, 37 AU from sun to planet 12.
Details about the hole can be found here.

Post your opinions!

---
The hole is courtesy of Yan Jung Clique who were evicted by Sky Fighters.
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#88 - 2013-11-25 23:24:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Sith1s Spectre
i'm biased, but i'm all for it :)

also - 1st WHAT tower :P


EDIT: If you really want to thank someone.... thank you know who (we all remember that thread and that guy who use to be their Ceo)

Resident forum troll and fashion consultant

Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#89 - 2013-11-25 23:50:17 UTC
What do you guys think about limiting same ships to 2 (instead of 3)?
As in 2 rifters, 2 jaguars and 2 wolves? Instead of 3.

It would mix stuff up a lot IMO.
Havoc Zealot
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#90 - 2013-11-26 02:25:54 UTC
I approve the use of that WH.
Winthorp
#91 - 2013-11-26 05:06:37 UTC
This Wh has just been cleansed of all carebears, it truly is a hole that BOB would approve of.

I do hope SSC and Kill left alts in there so they can find their own route in.. Pirate
Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2013-11-26 07:55:10 UTC
Pobunjenik wrote:
What do you guys think about limiting same ships to 2 (instead of 3)?
As in 2 rifters, 2 jaguars and 2 wolves? Instead of 3.

It would mix stuff up a lot IMO.


May do the other thing as well that's been heavily discussed aswell...

Limit sentries

Resident forum troll and fashion consultant

Havoc Zealot
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#93 - 2013-11-26 08:32:11 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
Pobunjenik wrote:
What do you guys think about limiting same ships to 2 (instead of 3)?
As in 2 rifters, 2 jaguars and 2 wolves? Instead of 3.

It would mix stuff up a lot IMO.


May do the other thing as well that's been heavily discussed aswell...

Limit sentries



Recently discovered...Sentries OP
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#94 - 2013-11-26 10:21:16 UTC
Pobunjenik wrote:

The hole is courtesy of Yan Jung Clique who donated the liberated system to Sky Fighters.



We accept!
Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#95 - 2013-11-26 20:41:11 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
Pobunjenik wrote:
What do you guys think about limiting same ships to 2 (instead of 3)?
As in 2 rifters, 2 jaguars and 2 wolves? Instead of 3.

It would mix stuff up a lot IMO.


May do the other thing as well that's been heavily discussed aswell...

Limit sentries

I wouldn't like to limit sentries (or anything for that matter).
We could just allow them for the 1st WHAT, and we'll see after that by the time the 2nd WHAT comes around.
If its OP, only insecure brats will deploy a whole bunch of 'em thus earning shame to their name.
Keith Planck
Hi-Sec Huggers
#96 - 2013-11-30 10:50:01 UTC
Someones trying to sell the tournament hole :<
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#97 - 2013-11-30 11:07:06 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
Someones trying to sell the tournament hole :<



Well then looks like you might have another eviction to do.
Max Leadfoot
Insurgence.
Tactical Narcotics Team
#98 - 2013-11-30 13:03:33 UTC
Pobunjenik wrote:
A hole has been found!
Post your opinions!


Sounds good to us.
Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#99 - 2013-11-30 13:12:09 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
Someones trying to sell the tournament hole :<


Let someone buy it and move a ton of stuff in. Then, have everyone from the tournament enter the hole at the same time. You tell the residents they can leave in their pods and the rest of their stuff is yours. PRIZES FOR EVERYONE!!! \o/

No trolling please

Pobunjenik
Resbroko Liberation Fleet
#100 - 2013-11-30 14:58:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Pobunjenik
Alright!
You're free to move your towers in.
Please, only use ewar batteries if you feel too naked having no defenses.

For HS entrance, ask in channel 'Altar of Bob'.