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Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

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#21 - 2013-11-26 07:14:36 UTC

Caviar Liberta wrote:

mynnna wrote:

Marlona Sky wrote:

If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main.

I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious.

So N3 will be joining the Amarr faction warfare in a few months then?

First they need to go to a lowsec area, then npc null or something... then eventually there i guess

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mynnna

State War Academy

Caldari State

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#22 - 2013-11-26 07:16:20 UTC

Caviar Liberta wrote:

mynnna wrote:

Marlona Sky wrote:

If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main.

I don't think it's really unreasonable for unrelated (but honourable) third parties to see the similarities between TEST and N3 and their respective relationships with PL and be curious.

So N3 will be joining the Amarr faction warfare in a few months then?

Nulli has been there before, I'm sure they could return.

Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal


Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Likes received: 6,953	#23 - 2013-11-26 07:21:32 UTC instead of needing renters to destroy us, maybe they can use fw income instead Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?

Tore Vest

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#24 - 2013-11-26 07:44:01 UTC

Diamond Zerg wrote:

Hi, I'd like to start a discussion on nullsec politics.

It is currently my opinion that if N3 starts to lose ground and PL assets are significantly at risk, PL will probobly abandon N3 and go back to being nomads.

Renter empire, you say? Sure, they'll stay to defend it if it is convenient for them, but they don't actually need it; PL can earn their ISK in other ways— mercenary work for example.

To me, this is an option that makes a lot of sense considering PL's tight community.
N3 is not a tight community, it is a bandwagon community.
PL will mostly stick together if they lose their sov, whereas N3 will not.

Now, I could be totally wrong and PL will remain loyal to N3 even if a lot of pressure is put on them by CFC/Rus.

What are your opinions?

The Mittani.... is it you ? Shocked

No troll.

Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

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#25 - 2013-11-26 07:48:56 UTC | Edited by: Alavaria Fera

Diamond Zerg wrote:

I believe it's been stated we have an agreement with PL

As such, NCdot and Nulli renters are being torched but not any BoT renter space...

Oh actually wait, we're just third parties and I guess Solar and BL don't have such agreements. Shrug

tiberiusric

Comply Or Die

Pandemic Horde

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#26 - 2013-11-26 08:58:40 UTC

Diamond Zerg wrote:

PL will do whats best for PL. remember PL is an alliance not a coalition like N3, so its a different story.

PL will of course want to defend their renter income, its of utter importance, to a point that leadership have told PL members to treat renters in a good manner. That's how important it is. But PL will be there for the gud fights of course, and their allegiance is with NC. not N3 to be honest. Where PL can get on a **** ton of KMS they will do. However I don't feel PL are anything like they used to be at all. Don't feel they are the real game changes anymore, the old FCs don't FC now, the old guard that used to be so prominent are not, and PL is just a different animal, rather than being the truly kick you in your face, mess you up type alliance they used to be, they are just a bloated alliance with high sp players that have a lot of caps.
I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again

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Kagura Nikon

Native Freshfood

Minmatar Republic

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#27 - 2013-11-26 09:17:01 UTC

Diamond Zerg wrote:

Get a character into a real corp to discuss eve politics.

"If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!"

Toshiro Ozuwara

Perkone

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#28 - 2013-11-26 09:20:46 UTC

tiberiusric wrote:

I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again

In the last 12 months, ATX winners. Biggest Super Cap dunk in Eve history. Kings of Lowsec.

What do they need to do to be game changers, walk on water?

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

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Signal11th Likes received: 1,683	#29 - 2013-11-26 09:22:58 UTC Scorpion and the Frog. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!

MestariBation

Viziam

Amarr Empire

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#30 - 2013-11-26 09:33:49 UTC

Garandras wrote:

Its a case of When they start losing not If..

Atm the main thing that is dragging the war out is the TZ diffrence between the two blocs.. The N3 team has the dominace over the US/AU TZ's while the Stainwagon is mainly Rus/Euro and with current Sov mechanics can make it a long process to actually gain ground as it relies on someone making a error on the timer or alarm clocking to make any ground.

Now hopefully with the Goons throwing their hat in as the 'Honorable third party' we may see N3 loosing space at a quicker rate

Where is your dignity? Seriously dude, that is embarrassing

Send me isk im poor

tiberiusric

Comply Or Die

Pandemic Horde

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#31 - 2013-11-26 10:02:06 UTC

Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:

tiberiusric wrote:

I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again

In the last 12 months, ATX winners. Biggest Super Cap dunk in Eve history. Kings of Lowsec.

What do they need to do to be game changers, walk on water?

That's not what we are talking about. Anyway you are a waffle you don't have any idea :)

So who won the AT? The old PL guard, not any of the new people.
Yeah didnt PL lose a few caps ie Revenant, and didnt I say they have a huge capital fleet, and its wasnt just PL was it.
Kings of Lowsec, running around in super cap fleets, and waffles now becoming low sec dwellers hardly makes PL game changers.

You know what I'm trying to say mate. I have huge respect for PL from what they used to be like, they just not the same anymore. I mean damn go read the PL forums, its full of old guard saying the same thing,

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Toshiro Ozuwara

Perkone

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#32 - 2013-11-26 10:11:42 UTC

tiberiusric wrote:

I have huge respect for PL from what they used to be like, they just not the same anymore. I mean damn go read the PL forums, its full of old guard saying the same thing,

You have access to the PL forums?

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

tiberiusric

Comply Or Die

Pandemic Horde

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#33 - 2013-11-26 10:12:15 UTC

Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:

tiberiusric wrote:

I have huge respect for PL from what they used to be like, they just not the same anymore. I mean damn go read the PL forums, its full of old guard saying the same thing,

You have access to the PL forums?

I did yes

All my views are my own - never be afraid to post with your main, unless you're going to post some dumb shit


Toshiro Ozuwara Perkone Likes received: 692	#34 - 2013-11-26 10:13:39 UTC tiberiusric wrote: I did yes Yeah, I see that now. RKK. Why did you quit PL? It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays


tiberiusric Comply Or Die Pandemic Horde Likes received: 268	#35 - 2013-11-26 10:15:37 UTC Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: tiberiusric wrote: I did yes Yeah, I see that now. RKK. Why did you quit PL? Because as I said, they just not the same old PL anymore. That's really all there is to it tbh All my views are my own - never be afraid to post with your main, unless you're going to post some dumb shit


Toshiro Ozuwara Perkone Likes received: 692	#36 - 2013-11-26 10:16:45 UTC tiberiusric wrote: Because as I said, they just not the same old PL anymore. You think that changed in the month you joined them? It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

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March rabbit Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 2,198	#37 - 2013-11-26 11:13:52 UTC as long as they enjoy TiDi and node crashes i could not care less about all this "politics". The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 2,368
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire Likes received: 2,368	#38 - 2013-11-26 11:15:32 UTC Toshiro Ozuwara wrote: tiberiusric wrote: I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again In the last 12 months, ATX winners. Biggest Super Cap dunk in Eve history. Kings of Lowsec. What do they need to do to be game changers, walk on water? Yeah but do they have a 35000 man Blob?!!! ~ Professional Forum Alt ~

Alavaria Fera

GoonWaffe

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#39 - 2013-11-26 13:23:52 UTC

Sentamon wrote:

Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:

tiberiusric wrote:

I would like to see PL do a purge and get back to being serious game changers again

In the last 12 months, ATX winners. Biggest Super Cap dunk in Eve history. Kings of Lowsec.

What do they need to do to be game changers, walk on water?

Yeah but do they have a 35000 man Blob?!!!

who needs it when you are elite pvping with supercap blob

Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 1,712
Johnny Marzetti Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire Likes received: 1,712	#40 - 2013-11-26 14:24:46 UTC 3 Marlona Sky wrote: If you go to COAD, where this belongs, you can post with your goon main. No one reads that shitpile of a forum, nor should they have to. Null politics affect the rest of the game and it's dumb to restrict that discussion from GD.