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Mobile Depot - Game Breaking Feature

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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#41 - 2013-11-25 00:51:12 UTC
RAW23 wrote:
Question for those saying just shoot the depot first: I guess it depends on the range of the ship but in many cases won't needing to stay by the depot give the target the opportunity to get out of point range?
If they're trying to get out of point range, they're too far from the depot to refit, making it no longer a priority until they turn around and come back again.

Who put the goat in there?
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#42 - 2013-11-26 01:46:23 UTC
Roggle wrote:
Today i found a raven in a wormhole, tackled it. He had setup a mobile depot and refit to warp core stabs to escape (very clever). I cant imagine this was its primary purpose but its seems like it could be abused. Solo is hard enough without have to bring 3 faction scrams to make sure you can catch PVE BS. I think that maybe you should not be able to refit if you have an agression timmer. Am I the only one who thinks this is a silly game mechanic or am i way off? Thanks


Stabs don't work in bubbles. Bring a bubbler friend.
Winchester Steele
#43 - 2013-11-26 02:04:53 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Ah, I see how it works. Carebares complain about PvPers ruining their game and the whole forum goes into turbojerk mode and pounces on them, but when a PvPer complains that they got outwitted by a carebare then everyone sends them flowers of condolence?



It's spelled carebear. Also, where in the story does it say the Raven Pilot was a carebear? And imagine that, people playing a hardcore pvp game more easily identify with someone who pvp's instead of someone who wants to turn eve into a single player mining simulator. Colour me shocked.

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Cygnet Lythanea
World Welfare Works Association
#44 - 2013-11-26 02:39:49 UTC
.... I have to ponder this but bubbles and interdictors, which you all seem to insist op should have brought, seem rather counterproductive in a WH. Bubble take time to anchor, and until this expansion, dictors were useless outside fleets.

Really the only valid thing any of you seem to have brought was he should have taken a gang along or put the depot in reenforced mode first. The problem with the latter is that the raven would have gotten away then anyway. The problem with the former is that... well, solos don't typically do that.
Garandras
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2013-11-26 03:00:17 UTC
Well played by the Raven is all I can say.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#46 - 2013-11-26 03:00:21 UTC
You got outsmarted by your prey, who was using the tools available to him to the fullest. Why so mad?
Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
#47 - 2013-11-26 03:01:26 UTC
Wow guys really? A soloer has a genuine concern and you say "bring friends"?

WHAT THE ****!?

Soloing in eve is an honourable and interesting thing, are you REALLY content to have it nerfed?

Cause if you are just so you can selfishly dominate people with your friends, get ******.

OP, if it isn't possible to reinforce the structure before he can refit, this tactic is overpowered, plain and simple.

Can't believe people actually want to make carebearing even easier lol.
Hi.
Dreygun
Alexylva Paradox
#48 - 2013-11-26 03:01:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Dreygun
As a wormhole player myself I will say I always have a mobile depot deployed when I am farming sleepers. So its not that hard to believe that it will be fairly common for players to do this and already have the depot out which means sending it into reinforce mode is off the table. This really would make it hard for players to bring down an opponent solo.

It wouldn't be a terrible idea to make it so that the mobile depot could be one shotted into reinforce mode or something like that.

i like the flexibilty the MD adds for in combat refits but there needs to be a viable counter and I am not sure if anything suggested so far would work other than bringing a friend, which frankly is not always an option and shouldnt be required. though if you are using Dscan you will know he has a depot out before you warp in so I guess you could plan accordingly to have counters like bubbles or extra scams.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-11-26 03:08:59 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Wow guys really? A soloer has a genuine concern and you say "bring friends"?

WHAT THE ****!?

Soloing in eve is an honourable and interesting thing, are you REALLY content to have it nerfed?

Cause if you are just so you can selfishly dominate people with your friends, get ******.

OP, if it isn't possible to reinforce the structure before he can refit, this tactic is overpowered, plain and simple.

Can't believe people actually want to make carebearing even easier lol.

It's not so much a "nerf" as "something new to stir things up a bit".

Dreygun wrote:
It wouldn't be a terrible idea to make it so that the mobile depot could be one shotted into reinforce mode or something like that.

They're already pretty close to that. It's really, really easy to reinforce a mobile depot.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#50 - 2013-11-26 03:09:25 UTC
Anybody remember a movie called "Mean Guns"?

In that movie, they had a room full of die hard criminals, and they dropped first bins full of guns on them, but there as no ammo.

Next they dropped bins full of baseball bats.

Then they dropped the ammo.


Sometimes a new item in this game reminds me of that movie.

Mobile depots are going to be one of them. Twisted

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Rhes
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2013-11-26 03:43:23 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Soloing in eve is an honourable and interesting thing


Who told you this? It's just a sign that you're not able to make friends.

EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay - CCP Rise
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#52 - 2013-11-26 03:54:45 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:


Soloing in eve is an honourable and interesting thing, are you REALLY content to have it nerfed?


A solo Raven pilot used the new mobile depot to defeat OP in a 1v1. Sounds like solo is working just fine.
Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
#53 - 2013-11-26 04:02:59 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:


Soloing in eve is an honourable and interesting thing, are you REALLY content to have it nerfed?


A solo Raven pilot used the new mobile depot to defeat OP in a 1v1. Sounds like solo is working just fine.


Evading PvP solo is not the same as fighting solo.

Ratters refitting to PvP modules and not warp core stabs would be a lot less of an issue.
Hi.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-11-26 04:09:00 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:


Soloing in eve is an honourable and interesting thing, are you REALLY content to have it nerfed?


A solo Raven pilot used the new mobile depot to defeat OP in a 1v1. Sounds like solo is working just fine.


Evading PvP solo is not the same as fighting solo.

Ratters refitting to PvP modules and not warp core stabs would be a lot less of an issue.

Evading PvP was never and is not now an issue. If you can get out of a fight you don't want, there is no real reason you shouldn't.
Malak Alraheem
Doomheim
#55 - 2013-11-26 04:41:39 UTC
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Domanique Altares wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:


Soloing in eve is an honourable and interesting thing, are you REALLY content to have it nerfed?


A solo Raven pilot used the new mobile depot to defeat OP in a 1v1. Sounds like solo is working just fine.


Evading PvP solo is not the same as fighting solo.

Ratters refitting to PvP modules and not warp core stabs would be a lot less of an issue.


So you're mad that he isn' t playing like you think he should be playing in a sandbox? Ah, you forgot to fit your entitlement projector before starting the attack I see.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#56 - 2013-11-26 06:12:06 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Ah, I see how it works. Carebares complain about PvPers ruining their game and the whole forum goes into turbojerk mode and pounces on them, but when a PvPer complains that they got outwitted by a carebare then everyone sends them flowers of condolence?



These are some odd looking flowers.


Diamond Zerg wrote:

Soloing in eve is an honourable


Both people were solo. The Raven just managed to get his honor into the OP's cheerios before the OP could do the same.

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OP, if it isn't possible to reinforce the structure before he can refit, this tactic is overpowered, plain and simple.

Can't believe people actually want to make carebearing even easier lol.


300 DPS is all you need.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Unsuccessful's Assistant
Doomheim
#57 - 2013-11-26 06:16:59 UTC
Because the tactic was used against the op, it is deemed to be bad and gamebreaking.

Something tells me that if the op had thought of the tactic himself first, he would be flaunting it as the greatest thing since sliced bread. (Not that sliced bread is really that great.)
Rattman
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#58 - 2013-11-26 06:24:19 UTC
I heard a story today about a poor little ratting thanatos that got hotdropped and scrammed by a big nasty nyx.

The thanatos dropped a depot, refitted to warp corestabs and moonwalked out on 8% structure
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#59 - 2013-11-26 06:38:01 UTC
Rattman wrote:
I heard a story today about a poor little ratting thanatos that got hotdropped and scrammed by a big nasty nyx.

The thanatos dropped a depot, refitted to warp corestabs and moonwalked out on 8% structure

should've used a revenant

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Karrl Tian
Doomheim
#60 - 2013-11-26 06:40:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Karrl Tian
Rhes wrote:
Diamond Zerg wrote:
Soloing in eve is an honourable and interesting thing


Who told you this? It's just a sign that you're not able to make friends.


I almost made a friend once. But then I shot him. Sad