EVE General Discussion

I seriously don't understand why everyone hates TiDi so much. In any other game so much activity from so many players would render the game completely unplayable. We would rather have a slow-mo battle than a full server crash, but people fail to appreciate how useful TiDi is. I cant stress this enough so i'm going to say it again: if large battles like those in EVE happened in any other game the game would crash, instead of run. The fact that we can even have these kinds of battles or events is truly amazing.

TiDi is not a band-aid solution. Its a CCP-doesnt-have-infinite-money-for-better-servers-and-this-never-happens-in-other-games-so-no-one-knows-a-better-solution solution that we take for granted.

OP is just a fresh wording of "buy better servers CCP!" which is the complaint that gets tossed around far too often.

No, you (and to be fair, many other posters in this thread) completely miss the point I am trying to make.

There is a more permanent solution to soul-crushing lag than just throwing processor power and optimization at the problem.

There is a structural issue in the game in that the only way to obtain progress performing specific activities causes a huge processor load in one very small area, resulting in a broken game. TiDi didn't fix the issue, the next incarnation of TiDi won't fix it and purchasing more million dollar supercomputers won't fix it.

CCP had plenty of time to do something about it before the problem crept up again, but instead they chose to do nothing and we are pretty much back to where we started.

Removing drone models altogether might help. I don't remember anyone that liked drone models.

I also think there should be more AOE in the game, and along with that, have formations that people warp into on grid.

EDIT: I reckon it would be very well received

What is that solution?

I swear, if you're not underemployed or a part time student, TiDi makes this game unplayable (on the occasions where you have to deal with it).

But again, a low expectations playerbase doesn't just see TiDi as a necessary evil, but talk about how much happier they are with it than without it.

It's like Internet Stockholm Syndrome - why worry about fixing a serious problem when things could be so much worse? Amirite?

CCP is pretty unique in having a single-shard universe, and it's a major feature of EVE; but there is a pretty good reason why all MMOs don't do single shard . . . can you guess why? If you said unplayable lag, you win! And what you win is unplayable nullsec fights due to lag!

If one of EVE's several defining features (massive-scale battles) doesn't work, it needs to be fixed, not bandaged. The repeated node deaths of the previous few months show that things are getting worse, not better, and asinine solutions like removing drones or forcing players to use less ships aren't going to help. This is something that'll require a heavy mix of better hardware and much, much better software, and it would be nice for the Dev's to at least hint that it's something that's not only being actively worked on, but that it's a priority.

EVE is already one of the least-interactive video games out there, adding 8 hour fights (and 2 hour travel times to get to those fights) is pretty sad. But again . . . benefits of a low expectation player base, I guess :P

Or maybe there is some other fix (other than serious, dedicated software overhaul and the addition of some even higher-end hardware) that hasn't been brought up yet. Maybe . . .

1) Subspace Warp Core Interference: when x amounts of supercaps are on the field, the combined interference from their warp drives causes some sort of pulse that straight up kills all drones in the system (electronics are too fragile for it) but leaves bombers intact (hardened electronics) as well as all ships (again, hardened electronics). It would mean that all fights that escalate to supercaps would mean drone boats get the shaft, but I'm sure the meta could adjust accordingly, and smaller fights would be unaffected.

2) Voltron Drone Assist: when a fleet has deployed x amount of drones and assisted them to one ship, the drones interlock into one giant behemoth drone-cannon. Requires a new type of drones that have better tracking/damage/optimal than current T2 drones, making it ideal for fleet fights where certain engagement ranges can (hopefully) be predicted. Instead of 5,000+ drones on the field, you have two giant drones facing off against one another, or one giant drone just murderfacing the opposing fleet unless and until it gets blown apart by opposing battleships/cruisers. Added points if EWAR drones can pull the same trick, and a monster Hornet-god can AoE ECM whole fleets with tear-inducing goodness (might be overkill on that one).

I agree. Only drone boats should be able to field 3-5 drones, everyone else should be limited to 1-2 drones, with drones buffed to compensate. Would also be nice to add an incentive to using larger drones on a ship, ie. if a battleship could field either 2 medium or 2 small, it would choose the medium for more DPS or the small for better tracking. When the alternate to 2 medium is 4 small, the smalls give better tracking and dps at the same time, while also making one ship count as 5 units as far as the server is concerned.

Solution: drone hardpoints.

But can you see any simple solution except - don't swarm ?

From what i observed tidi spikes when people begin to shoot - especially when carrier drones shoot ( calculation for each drone probably, delegation, and the fact that they shoot at the same time ).
Maybe CCP go into this direction - or provide us with some simplified combat scheme during big fights - simplified scripts for shoots calculation , that will round some of the values, or use previous results.

I know this is bad solution, but it is way better than "we are going to kill ihub - job for 10minutes , see you in 5 hours.

AoE DOOMSDAYS

Make some new ship to use these. They will be very expensive, an alliance might only have two or even three of them.