Player Features and Ideas Discussion

While I understand your reasons, I should point out that most of the problems you point out comes from mining alone.

While I understand your reasons, I should point out that many aspects of PvP have changed not for better, but for worse.

You seem to never have mined with support from a mining foreman or director in a industrial command ship.

We had a lot given to industrials.

If you have all that is given to industrial pilots you have a hulk that in 2 cicles fill its cargo hold. It can reach 25km asteroids. Do you know how much you need to put in a ship to have equivalent combat capability ?

The worse problem of EVE is feeding the impression that everything can be done alone and easly.

Mining fleets are all around, find one and most of your problems are solved.

mining did get alot with the barge rebalance.
but
its FAR from good.

i do my mining in skiffs due to the gank factor. personal preference.

but, i agree with the OP. 200 different pvp ships of all flavors but 7 mining ships. it seems 3 strip miners is the most you can have. we have pvp ships with 8 weapons and bonuses to damage or projection, but only 3 strippers. only 7 ships.
a few modules to scan is ok with me except that under boost, the strippers reach out further than one can scan.

what about putting a couple highs on an orca for strippers? i mean this thing goes into the belts, why must it be a boost only hauler? what if it received 2 more highs. one could run 3 strippers and 2 links. that would mean i could actually do something with my 3rd account other than sitting in a pos.
or, give a mining bonus to the drones of rorquals. or capital mining drones? make them so they mine as much as a hulk.
i mean sentries can throw out 1k dps form a carrier. fighters can match that or more.
rorqual and orca as capital ships? why not do something kewl for those willing to train up to them?

i think capital mining drones would be a kewl start for the rorqual. they can be drawn in and normal drones dropped for defense.
the orca should be something other than a large hauler. add strippers and it can be an "in belt" cap booster that ISNT useless.

i would drag my orca into worm holes all day if it was more than just a hauler.

Posting to confirm that mining in EVE is probably the most boring activity ever devised by humankind and that this is a far bigger problem than "we need more ships to all perform the exact same function" and therefore needs attention first - especially as the outcome can have a direct and significant impact on what sort of ships are/are not needed.

I second that

This is won't add anything into the game, but it will change mining from boring only to boring and frustrating. Good idea bro! You're are a real griefer.

If mining used strippers, maybe more people would pay attention while doing it.

Just wanted to make sure you got this part it is very important. If you have trouble understanding what it means feel free to contact me I will be more than happy to explain it. Or go to my Bio and follow the link.

A few points:

1.) I fully support a faction scanner that can see out to 30+ km's. This will make your ship blingier, which I'm completely ok with!

2.) I also support revamping mineral compression in this game. It is strange that we build 425mm Railguns to get the "optimal" compression rates in game. I would much rather have Rorqual Compressed ores and mineral ingots be the norm for mineral compression.

3.) I also believe the Rorqual's role should be revisited. I don't want those to be POS ornaments, but something I have the chance to tackle at a belt!!!

Allow Rorqs in highsec :D


Edit:
But that would rely on Cyno's (Don't think they can jump through gate) Never mind

Okay, add new mining ships:

Only if you have to actively mine with a minigame.

Any activity that rewards flicking on modules and going AFK is an activity that needs to be rebalanced from the ground up.