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Independence from the Empires in the near future

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Odinfar
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-11-24 23:56:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Odinfar
Okay first time stepping into the Council Hall, let me put on my fire retardant clothing, okay good. Ready for the flames. Big smile

My suggestion is simply really (and though I can't speak for the totality of the EVE community) I believe many will be able to see its merit:

With Rubicon now upon us and the increasing power of the Capsuleers in New Eden, I suggest a few new mechanics for the next expansion.

1) Allow players to take control of regions within Empire Space. Not just by saying this is my system or that is my corp's system, but in a more concrete way. Make it possible for an alliance with enough will and strength to declare independence from the Empire in control of said region (obviously this would be more likely near the borders/medium security regions and not near the capitals or 1.0 systems).

2) Allow players to force out/destroy the current stations in HighSec Empire controlled systems. Since we now have the ability to do this with POCOs, the next logical step is to be able to do this with stations. We already have stations owned by players outside Empire space, so the mechanics are already present.

3) Allow newly "independent" systems the ability to hire/create/spawn (what have you) their own security forces (since logically the Empires/CONCORD won't be inclined to defend these systems any longer). This could be tied into a new branch of the skill tree, something the effect of Corp Management or Empire Control and obviously the ships used would have to be purchased/built by the new ruling Alliance. This could also allow for these indepence movements to occur in LowSec stretches of Empire Space. After their war for indepence is complete, the new ruling Alliance could "convert" the system to a pseudo-higher security level wherein they set the laws, i.e. no podding, ganking miners is a-okay, all out PvP is the norm, or so-and-so on this list is not allowed in this system.

4) To create a more fluid/realistic process for these revolutions, make the change over be something that requires a lot of work, i.e. you will have to win indepence from the Empire that controls said region. If you win, the result would be freedom. If you lose, the result would be a dramatic drop in faction/Empire status akin to fighting for the Minmatar for a year and trying to fly into Amarr controlled HighSec.

5) This one's more for the cool points, but when/if you win your independence, your Alliance will be "upgraded" from Alliance Status to Nation Status. The Alliance name will still be present, but after it would be the name of the nation, i.e. The Bacon Legion of Bacontopia.

Okay, so there's my first post. Please be gentle. What?
Endovior
PFU Consortium
#2 - 2013-11-25 21:49:35 UTC
Interesting concept, but I'd envision it as being something that'd never happen in hisec. On the other hand, nibbling away bits of lowsec seems reasonable.
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#3 - 2013-11-26 11:42:47 UTC
To be honest, you should simply move to zero sec. What you want is there.

Your suggestion just positions Hi-Sec to be taken over by the existing powerblock alliances and gives nothing to the little guy.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
#4 - 2014-02-11 11:53:55 UTC
Jint Hikaru wrote:
To be honest, you should simply move to zero sec. What you want is there.

Your suggestion just positions Hi-Sec to be taken over by the existing powerblock alliances and gives nothing to the little guy.


Moving to nullsec doesn't really solve anything, since you're going to be renting space. From Concord.

Why do we "claim" a system, then pay Concord a fee to keep the system ours is what's beyond me. I realize CCP developped it so you would still have a money sink even after you settled the far reaches of space.

What I'd like is total independence from Empire. I.e. when I claim space, it's mine, and if anyone is collecting a fee on stuff happening in the system, it's me. Not Concord, not DED, not Sisters of EVE. Me.

The character does not represent the views/opinions of its Corporation or Alliance.

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#5 - 2014-02-11 15:50:43 UTC
your another one that wants to nerf high sec so to speak. we rent from concord as an isk sink which was over come by the massive alliances and coalitions. if you destroy the stations which was done once in histry before ccp stopped it caused a mass loss of player own assets in the station. I also have no doubt that even if this did happen where empire becomes like null with the major powers of null sec moving in it would be like POCOs, day 0 goonswarm swarmed empire placing as many pocos as they could at massive high taxes, the stations would end up owned by the major player alliances and either ban those who arent a part of them or blue from accessing the station or you would be charges massive fees for docking and refining rates.

If we did blow up stations like the trade hubs, imagine the isk loss and the progress that markets would have to ultimately reset, over 90% of the market is built by players. Im for people popping macro miners but not every miner is a macro and some of us enjoy industry and undercutting the competition in market pvp.

even the csm have been against those who want to do away with empire even though its become a massive war ground, while initially it will be a MAJOR ISK sink but just like Nullsec, the player base will catch up with the ISK sink and be even more powerful forcing people to takes sides as it is now to get into nullsec

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#6 - 2014-02-11 16:12:14 UTC
You do realize that Jita 4-4 would be nuked within minutes...

It would crash the game market, and the tears would flow like a river..........after a dam burst its banks and taking out whatever lies in it way!

Also, Goonswarm Online: Your **** is ours! Blue Donut Edition™ is already upon us.

...

Diamond Zerg
Taking Solo Away.
#7 - 2014-02-17 01:17:48 UTC
Odinfar wrote:
let me put on my fire retardant clothing


Big smile
Hi.
Commander Shivari
Industrial Mining and Mayhem
Sigma Grindset
#8 - 2014-02-17 01:36:09 UTC
This concept is awesome and perhaps an empire warfare would be necessary every few years started by ccp (like incursions) where one faction actively battles another in high sec space and shift the ownership this way ot that even into player controlled hands. This scenerio could benefit game play and perhaps see caps allowed back into empire for a set duration controlled by ccp. of course perserve parts how they are for new players and those who choose a neutral stance on the story line of what is happening. This idea could spawn into many different things but is worth pursuing. Perhaps i would like to see the Gallente empire pushed into making some 0.0 regions empire while losing ground where they sit. or changing current .1 thru .4 systems into .5+ and vica versa.

Push this to the top could be amazing.