Jita Park Speakers Corner

Keep breathing Solst...keep breathing.

And maybe a cup of water / wiskey helps.

Sadly CSM is there just to act as buffer between players and CCP. ANd as we have seen CCP does walk over CSM when ever they feel like it. Too bad CCP is not publicly traded corp, i would buy few shares and after that they would have to answer my questions in shareholder meetings. :P

Yes CSM has raised many good issues and got some fixes. Sadly they have also turned 90% of nullsec into wasteland. Instead of being living vibrating space full of life. Its mostly just empty and sandbox for wannabe warlords with their armies locked in newer ending conflict. And even levels of conflict has gone done a lot... Good moons are too valuable to be lost, so they are not fight over because of gentleman's agreement. Only times areas and moons really change hands is when alliance collapses from inside.

Yes i have voted in CSM elections. Sadly my candidates have newer made it. Not even once. So i can conclude CSM does not represent me. Acording to CSM meeting minutes, things i consider important havent ben addressed so far in any tangible way. CCP replays: were thinking about it... And results newer come.

Nullsec power blocks steamrolls their people in CSM and as result best nullsec systems gets buffed again and again. Rest of nullsec has been nerfed to highlight the difference even more. Talk about having power. Power to change the game to your agenda.

Personally i would divide seats in CSM evely between highsec, lowsec, nullsec and wh-space. And im sure CCP can figure out how to detect where candidates play, after all they have all the data about this game. YEs some will now cry: Buts its not fair... Indeed its not fair to those that wish to grab the power. It would be fair to everyone else.

Good point, those that voted. Witch is what? Less then 10% of subscriptions of this game.

In any democracy that low vote turnout would mean re-election in a month. Yeah, really democratically chosen representation.

No wonder they drive just power blocks interest to be richer and more in power. They don't need to care of those 90% that did int vote. 90% that their message did int appeal.

I was making a statement of fact.

I have always voted in every CSM election in which I could vote.

The plain unvarnished truth is that the vast majority of players just do not vote in the CSM elections for whatever reason.

The CSM as a mechanism is by no means perfect, but it is the best we have and we should make the most of it.

Remove the CSM and I would suggest that even those who bad mouth the CSM and do not vote would soon be wailing on the forums.

A person with the right to vote who elects not to is handing their power over to those who do. The CSM does represent the players of EVE, the "majority" can't hide behind that "I didn't vote" excuse here any more than in real life.

Same goes for people who lose the vote, the CSM represents you too, because by voting (and subbing to EVE online) you are directly consenting to abide by the will of the voting majority. I simply despise the people who win a vote and everything is great but if they lose they shout "that guy doesn't represent me/he isn't my president/PM/MP/whatever!".

The key people I voted for were, for the most part, elected... and I got no EVE mail telling me how to vote (not that I would have paid attention to it).

My views are being fairly well represented as well.

Of course this is only one of the lines of communication that I have available to me. i post frequently (and in the right places) on the forum, and I do the polls that occasionally DO come out on various issues.

My voice is apparently heard, as at least one of my idea's made it into the expansion before Rubicon pretty much word for word. Then again they ignored (probably wisely) many other suggestions I made because they didn't fit well with the over all direction of the game.

Point being, you have many way's to be heard... but often the answer will be a firm "NO".

Your nuckin' futs son. As a 15 year plus veteran of online gaming communities, I can tell you with some surety that CCP listens to their player base far more than any other game company I've ever seen. Almost to a fault, I'd say. Sometimes they seem to get so bogged down trying to appease their fickle fan base that I feel they lose sight of their own artistic integrity.

One of the things I love about CCP, is that they are so inclusive of their community. Hell, they even hire their devs from the playerbase. What more do you want?

CSM members are elected by popular vote. People vote for candidates who think the same as themselves. Ergo the personal opinions that end up on the CSM are those which align with the majority of the voters.

This is literally just a popularity contest, and yet you seem to be having trouble following how it works.


They speak for the majority of players who have something to say. You don't actually need a representative to represent a lack of opinion.

CCP does do a ton more interaction with it's community than other devs for sure. That however, does not erase T20, Greed is Good, SOMER etc...ignoring those incidents might shade the lens towards the rose colored spectrum.