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Warp Disrupter stopping MWD
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g4rb0
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-11-25 11:08:32 UTC
Hi,

I've been out of the game for a couple of months. I was tackling ships all last night with a warp disruptor, trying to stay about 15km away (i.e. out of web range). Anyway I ended up getting webbed (think he overloaded the module) and warp disrupted and my MWD was disabled. I clicked on that MWD and nothing happened. I couldn't for the life of me get it working. Has there been a patch to stop my MWD working after being warp disrupted now? This happened on a few occasions. I'm not sure if I missed something that was stopping my MWD working, because I can't otherwise explain it unless there has been a patch that makes MWD disabled by the warp disruptor?

Thanks,
Steve
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#2 - 2013-11-25 11:10:25 UTC
Warp scrambler disables MWD.

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Riot Girl
You'll Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack
#3 - 2013-11-25 11:10:39 UTC
He might have had 2 points fitted.

Oh god.
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-11-25 11:22:10 UTC
2 Warp Disruptor dont disable MWDs, do they?

MAybe you fought an Interceptor or a gallente Recon? Those have range bonuses to warp scramblers

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YouAreMyBounty Sarn
Aurora.
The Initiative.
#5 - 2013-11-25 11:30:30 UTC
Roime wrote:
Warp scrambler disables MWD.



That's what I thought. That's why you fit a web and afterburner with a scram, but you fit a warp disrupter with an MWD.

Maybe I just missed something that was stopping me MWD away. I will test it tonight with a friend on his ship to confirm.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-11-25 11:31:32 UTC
A warp disruptor (or any number of simultaneous warp disruptors) doesn't disable your MWD.

A warp scrambler does disable your MWD.

However the in-game effect for both is the same and the game calls them both "warp disruptor". (And the notification is "warp scramble attempt from X to Y" for both. Talk about consistency.) As far as I know, the only way to tell which one you are affected by is to try to activate your MWD.
YouAreMyBounty Sarn
Aurora.
The Initiative.
#7 - 2013-11-25 11:47:55 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
A warp disruptor (or any number of simultaneous warp disruptors) doesn't disable your MWD.

A warp scrambler does disable your MWD.

However the in-game effect for both is the same and the game calls them both "warp disruptor". (And the notification is "warp scramble attempt from X to Y" for both. Talk about consistency.) As far as I know, the only way to tell which one you are affected by is to try to activate your MWD.


Yeah but you usually see a little picture above your capacitor showing which one is getting you. The blue disrupter looking pic is the scram, and the turquoise color one is the disruptor. I could have sworn it was a turquoise colour, that's all. I must be mistaken though!
Chrom Shakiel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-11-25 13:34:02 UTC
If you are being disrupted while you are pulsing your MWD doesn't it make you unable to start the MWD again? and i mean the disruptor not the scram.
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
New Eden Tech Support
#9 - 2013-11-25 15:14:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
YouAreMyBounty Sarn wrote:
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
A warp disruptor (or any number of simultaneous warp disruptors) doesn't disable your MWD.

A warp scrambler does disable your MWD.

However the in-game effect for both is the same and the game calls them both "warp disruptor". (And the notification is "warp scramble attempt from X to Y" for both. Talk about consistency.) As far as I know, the only way to tell which one you are affected by is to try to activate your MWD.


Yeah but you usually see a little picture above your capacitor showing which one is getting you. The blue disrupter looking pic is the scram, and the turquoise color one is the disruptor. I could have sworn it was a turquoise colour, that's all. I must be mistaken though!


Blue = Warp Scrambler = No Warping or MWD'ing [tradeoff is less range than Warp Disruptor]
Turquoise = Warp Disruptor = No Warping althougth MWD will save that azz if you get gotten [much greater range than Warp Scrambler]

... or something.

Thank me later :D
Praxis Ginimic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-11-25 15:23:08 UTC
He could've had a ship with a range bonus to scrams or was getting off grid boosts, which is common.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#11 - 2013-11-25 15:48:37 UTC
agreed, he was likely hit by an actual warp scrambler from 15km.

Would help to know what tackled him.

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Dextrome Thorphan
#12 - 2013-11-25 16:23:26 UTC
g4rb0 wrote:
Hi,

I've been out of the game for a couple of months. I was tackling ships all last night with a warp disruptor, trying to stay about 15km away (i.e. out of web range). Anyway I ended up getting webbed (think he overloaded the module) and warp disrupted and my MWD was disabled. I clicked on that MWD and nothing happened. I couldn't for the life of me get it working. Has there been a patch to stop my MWD working after being warp disrupted now? This happened on a few occasions. I'm not sure if I missed something that was stopping my MWD working, because I can't otherwise explain it unless there has been a patch that makes MWD disabled by the warp disruptor?

Thanks,
Steve


How do you know for sure it was a disruptor and not a scrambler? You got a killmail?
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#13 - 2013-11-25 16:43:24 UTC
Only warp scrams knock off the MWD, no number of disruptors will
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#14 - 2013-11-25 17:32:41 UTC
There's a number of ships that have range bonuses to Scrams, you might have been fighting one of them. Also, I think one or two of the officer scrams have a longish range, though I highly doubt that was what hit you.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#15 - 2013-11-25 18:32:57 UTC
Pretty much been stated already, but even a Keres can overload a T2 scram to 18.9. If you're in to throwing money at problems, it can overload a True Sansha scram for 3 points out to 23.6. Either an Arazu or a Lachesis can get a T2 out to 18 before overheat or 21.6 with overheat. TS gets 22.5/27.

So yeah. Know what you're up against at all times. Long points are long.
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#16 - 2013-11-26 08:55:11 UTC
Short range scrams will turn off your MWD. That being said, some Scrams can reach out to 7000m-16km if not more. This is done through a variety of things.

1. Overheating will increase the range of the scram.
2. Command links will further increase it.
3. Faction points have a larger scramming distance.
4. Some ships are tailored to having a scram range bonus (Interceptors, Keres, Arazu, Lachesis)

Your enemy could of used a variety of these tools in order to scram you at a distance you were not expecting.