EVE General Discussion

To the OP,

What the MIttani said at fanfest was stupid, especially in this day and age and especially given that he was live being watched by thousands of people.

Do I believe he really wanted the WIS to Kill himself, of course he bloody didn't

Did the Mittani really want everybody to harass the WIS to the point where he commits suicide, of course he didn't.

To think either of these things is just ridiculous.

However, because of who he (some kind of imaginary bad guy in charge of an evil empire full of evil people in a spaceship game) many people saw this as an opportunity to finally get pay back and thus a ***** storm was created and pushed until CCP had no choice other then to remove him.

Funny enough many people who got bent out of shape over the whole Somerblink episode (something which Somer were doing for years) were the same people who forum raged against the Mittani.

Oh look, its the same people again appearing in this thread, what a surpirse

As for Malcanis, yeah sure he can be abrasive at times and to be honest it makes for a refreshing change.

Most of the CSM members throughout the years have been nothing more the **** sucking psychopaths who appear to be terrified of making anybody unhappy and will pander to anybody regardless of how dumb they are being.

They act more like politicians then representatives our our community.

Malcanis and to some extend Mynna say exactly what they think and if you are being particularly dumb, they will call you dumb.

Malcanis is the same now as he was before he become a CSM so why would he change?

At least he has the integrity to stay the same instead of being false just to make some people feel they are special snowflakes .

Can you give me an example of where you'd be saying, "for the thousandth time…" to someone that it wasn't accompanied by eyerolling or a resigned sigh as you try to explain something to someone you consider to be as thick as two short planks? Is it a phrase that would be used in the normal course of a respectful discussion?

The explanation would have worked much better without that line. Well, unless Malcanis' purpose was to troll, in which case it has worked spectacularly with a bunch of folks taking it hook line and sinker. But then that's more grounds for the post to be removed (no trolling).

There's a pretty distinct difference between being abrasive and flying off the handle. While I don't think he should be punished for it ("flying off the handle" adequately describes the response to his post as well), that's exactly what he did.

He might have had a decent point somewhere in there, but it certainly got lost in translation.

I agree. My point is that it's nowhere a reason for outrage and asking for the removal of a representative, which is plainly ridiculous and overreacted.

You may freely judge such a person for being uncivil and make your mind about him (though judging someone on such a limited basis is a bit simplistic), but in the present case, it's a totally meaningless event that you'll see about everywhere in debates, including Eve-O forums, daily.
Being a CSM representative doesn't have anything to do with that, and some people are being vocal about it just because they can, and/or have some grief against a specific person, and/or are in desperate need of a cause to fight for.

You might have a point...

IF malcanis had been sweetness and light on the forums prior to being elected to the CSM, and then slowly morphed into being grumpy.

You seem to be mixing Malcanis pre-election and Chribba up. This may or may not be an easy mistake to make.

Apparently he said at some point that he will not be seeking a second term.

Were I him, the first day I was off the council, I'd go on a week long bender of Quafe and violence.

Even as a newer player, I have seen a substantial difference between his posting now and his posting pre election.

He has gone off into the deep end and is often insulting people now, rather than simply being blunt. He no longer seems to seek to educate but instead goes down the path of ridicule.
This is not 'setting an example for the community' unless you think that the path of ridicule for anything you disagree with is the correct path for EVE. I'm not above a little ridicule myself if someone truely is being stupid, but ridiculing people who can present a decent argument simply because it's not your view point is an entirely different matter.

If he should or shouldn't be dismissed from CSM, I'm undecided. But he certainly should be given a good kick over his behaviour by CCP and told to pull himself in line and behave as a community representative. Which includes listening to view points that disagree with you, or even that you find unpalatable. Not just pushing your own personal agenda and trying to trash anything else. Bluntness, that he can keep.

Having always been (from EVE's point of view anyway) as ascerbic as I am, permit me to offer a possible explanation.

Malcanis is pretty much burned out on suffering fools.

I myself have gone through phases like this, although much earlier in my life than Malcanis, who is somewhat older than I. I was a professional tutor some time ago. At first, I enjoyed using my superior skills or knowledge to help those less far along the road than I.

But as you see face after face stare at you blankly, not comprehending what a reciprocal is, it starts to wear on even the most kindhearted person, which I surely am not.

Day after day, question after question, of something people should be capable of understanding on their own, should they choose to apply themselves. Eventually you start to hate the thought of being asked a question, of having someone intrude upon you to find the answer to something you know perfectly well they could find on their own. You tire of seeing people take the easy way out because genuine learning is too hard or time consuming.

Then you stop feeling pity at all for the states they put themselves in. After all, why should it fall on you to correct someone else's wayward behavior? Why, when you learned it the hard way, do these people feel entitled to the fruits of your knowledge?

And there you have it.

While I do expect CSM members to have some level of integrity, and to be held to it, being nice to everyone is not the same thing. After reading the original post I thought Malcanis must have posted someone's home address, cell number, bank account information, and a set of embarrassing beach photos. Clearly I was a little confused after actually reading the thread in question.