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Mobile Depot - Game Breaking Feature

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Jessi Slanjava
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-11-24 19:06:00 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
Roggle wrote:
Today i found a raven in a wormhole, tackled it. He had setup a mobile depot and refit to warp core stabs to escape (very clever). I cant imagine this was its primary purpose but its seems like it could be abused. Solo is hard enough without have to bring 3 faction scrams to make sure you can catch PVE BS. I think that maybe you should not be able to refit if you have an agression timmer. Am I the only one who thinks this is a silly game mechanic or am i way off? Thanks


On the whole, I'm more worried about the passive effect of local grids getting fouled up because of all these "huts" being set up.

I don't think they should be deployable/anchorable any closer than 1,000 KM from an npc station and having them banned from 1.0, 0.9 and 0.8, just like Giant Secure Cans, isn't a bad idea either.

After all the effort over the years to reduce lag... Roll


Those are actually legit ideas, had to double check that this was still GD.
Dorian Wylde
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2013-11-24 19:12:21 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Ah, I see how it works. Carebares complain about PvPers ruining their game and the whole forum goes into turbojerk mode and pounces on them, but when a PvPer complains that they got outwitted by a carebare then everyone sends them flowers of condolence?



Yeah pretty much. Go look at the siphon thread in F&I and see all the whining from the null sec carebears. Or the massive whinefests when MJD and ecm burst modules were introduced.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#23 - 2013-11-24 19:22:29 UTC
Roggle wrote:
Today i found a raven in a wormhole, tackled it. He had setup a mobile depot and refit to warp core stabs to escape (very clever). I cant imagine this was its primary purpose but its seems like it could be abused. Solo is hard enough without have to bring 3 faction scrams to make sure you can catch PVE BS. I think that maybe you should not be able to refit if you have an agression timmer. Am I the only one who thinks this is a silly game mechanic or am i way off? Thanks


You do know that the 1st ting you should do after you tackle a pve ship is shoot the depot so they can't refit right.

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Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#24 - 2013-11-24 19:23:53 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Ah, I see how it works. Carebares complain about PvPers ruining their game and the whole forum goes into turbojerk mode and pounces on them, but when a PvPer complains that they got outwitted by a carebare then everyone sends them flowers of condolence?


This is how prejudice makes one blind. You do notice that most of the "PVPrs" responding in this thread are telling the OP to HTFU right?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2013-11-24 19:24:01 UTC
Just noticed that op is complaining about tackling a Raven who then put down a mobile depot, refitted off it, and escaped.

How bad can you get? Seriously, just destroy the mobile depot. You have a full minute to chew through 17.5k EHP - about as much as a Harbinger with no tank mods or skills.

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ArmyOfMe
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#26 - 2013-11-24 19:27:07 UTC
Ok, i laughed, cause thats just brilliant use of game mechanics Lol

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2013-11-24 19:27:28 UTC
And even if you can't destroy it before it onlines, you should be very close to reinforcing it. You can't refit off a reinforced mobile depot. You can put mods in it though, so the consequence of you being bad (but not as bad as op, to your credit) is not getting any sweet faction lewt.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-11-24 19:34:39 UTC
finally a use for warp core stabs!

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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2013-11-24 20:38:51 UTC
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Ah, I see how it works. Carebares complain about PvPers ruining their game and the whole forum goes into turbojerk mode and pounces on them, but when a PvPer complains that they got outwitted by a carebare then everyone sends them flowers of condolence?

Uhh
Inquisitor Ageri wrote:
l2p & biomass yourself.

baltec1 wrote:
I always smile when a raven outsmarts someoneBig smile

Jessi Slanjava wrote:
Reinforce the depot + kill raven = no need to QQ on forums about it.

Rhes wrote:
Make friends. Work together.

Yeah sympathetic as f***

Dodixie > Hek
Casanunda
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2013-11-24 20:46:03 UTC
ElQuirko wrote:
Katran Luftschreck wrote:
Ah, I see how it works. Carebares complain about PvPers ruining their game and the whole forum goes into turbojerk mode and pounces on them, but when a PvPer complains that they got outwitted by a carebare then everyone sends them flowers of condolence?

Uhh
various folks wrote:
l2p & biomass yourself, I always smile when a raven outsmarts someoneBig smile, Reinforce the depot + kill raven = no need to QQ on forums about it, Make friends. Work together.

Yeah sympathetic as f***

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M1k3y Koontz
House of Musashi
Stay Feral
#31 - 2013-11-24 21:03:45 UTC
@OP If you're doing 300 DPS or more you could have killed the depot before it was fully anchored, preventing him from refitting off it. They have horrid EHP, and you have 60 seconds to kill it.

How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2013-11-24 21:10:56 UTC
Roggle wrote:
Today i found a raven in a wormhole, tackled it. He had setup a mobile depot and refit to warp core stabs to escape (very clever). I cant imagine this was its primary purpose but its seems like it could be abused. Solo is hard enough without have to bring 3 faction scrams to make sure you can catch PVE BS. I think that maybe you should not be able to refit if you have an agression timmer. Am I the only one who thinks this is a silly game mechanic or am i way off? Thanks


**** this is perfect :'D

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Anomaly One
Doomheim
#33 - 2013-11-24 21:14:28 UTC
thx for the tip OP!

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Irya Boone
The Scope
#34 - 2013-11-24 21:24:56 UTC
Roggle wrote:
Today i found a raven in a wormhole, tackled it. He had setup a mobile depot and refit to warp core stabs to escape (very clever). I cant imagine this was its primary purpose but its seems like it could be abused. Solo is hard enough without have to bring 3 faction scrams to make sure you can catch PVE BS. I think that maybe you should not be able to refit if you have an agression timmer. Am I the only one who thinks this is a silly game mechanic or am i way off? Thanks


This ..... so your definition of solo (pvp? ) is to go after poor PVE BS ?
i'm sad very sad :(


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Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#35 - 2013-11-24 21:31:23 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMFahR4wXTg

Refitting in combat is nothing new. A little cheesy perhaps, about as pleasant as having your opponent in poker pulling out a second hand from his sleeves, but still acceptable according to the rules set down by the game designers Cool

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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
#36 - 2013-11-24 21:32:05 UTC
Inquisitor Ageri wrote:
l2p & biomass yourself.

I love L2P responses regarding items in game less than a week.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2013-11-24 21:45:29 UTC
Nexus Day wrote:
Inquisitor Ageri wrote:
l2p & biomass yourself.

I love L2P responses regarding items in game less than a week.

Items that have been on the test server for a while.
Items whose behavior is already quite well documented.
Items which aren't exactly complicated to figure out.
The Raven pilot learned how to use them. The OP failed to learn how to counter them. It's not surprising who came out on top.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Roggle
Tactically Euthanized
#38 - 2013-11-24 21:54:37 UTC
M1k3y Koontz wrote:
@OP If you're doing 300 DPS or more you could have killed the depot before it was fully anchored, preventing him from refitting off it. They have horrid EHP, and you have 60 seconds to kill it.




depot was already set up
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2013-11-24 21:56:38 UTC
Roggle wrote:
M1k3y Koontz wrote:
@OP If you're doing 300 DPS or more you could have killed the depot before it was fully anchored, preventing him from refitting off it. They have horrid EHP, and you have 60 seconds to kill it.




depot was already set up

You could still reinforce it.
But good on the Raven pilot for being proactive. Of course, the drawback is that he can't exactly move if he wants to stay in refit range. Not that that's a problem for a Raven.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
RAW23
#40 - 2013-11-24 22:59:40 UTC  |  Edited by: RAW23
Question for those saying just shoot the depot first: I guess it depends on the range of the ship but in many cases won't needing to stay by the depot give the target the opportunity to get out of point range?

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