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tried to gank a golem - FAILED

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LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-11-21 04:32:24 UTC
I tried ganking a new golem today.

Probed him out guarding a mining op, warped to him, Hulks warped off just as I landed, so i tacked the golem.

I had 850dps 100k ehp probing legion and a 500dps cerberus alt.

Golem had bastion mode.

I couldnt even put a scratch into his tank, and after a minute was forced to get off the field in deep armor. Brought a LOT of friends later, but they docked up and stayed docked. Will try black ops drop later.

So, who had success with breaking new marauders, and how many ships you guys had?
ALUCARD 1208
Jerkasaurus Wrecks Inc.
Sedition.
#2 - 2013-11-21 07:13:41 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
neut the marauder = game over
Machiavelli's Nemesis
Angry Mustellid
#3 - 2013-11-21 13:16:10 UTC
Switch that cerb alt for a pilgrim. Neut him flat and he'll die in a hilariously expensive fire.
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-11-21 14:52:15 UTC
Bring a bhaalgorn next time....

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
#5 - 2013-11-21 16:06:57 UTC
You had a Legion? Rock the neut sub. Yeah he'll still be able to shoot at you with missiles but your repper should be plenty if you're speed tanking. Follow up by splitting for some lasers or drones, though tbh I haven't tried a mixed outfit in a while. Pilgrim works too.

Arma Purgatorium - What is Podded May Never Die

Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#6 - 2013-11-21 16:57:00 UTC
lol, you have no idea. Bring a full-on blops fleet with in excess of 4000 dps. Nothing else will do.

To give you an idea, I went EFT warrioring yesterday and was able to get an absurdly fit Golem with 219k dps active tank vs Caldari Navy Antimatter, 810k EHP, and >1400 dps, all on the same fit.

The idea of tanking an entire fleet of dreads using nothing but local reps seems a bit OP. But it does require full set of HG Crystals, deadspace hardeners, all level 5s, links... etc.

They would make good combat cyno ships in large fleet battles.

A fairer assessment would be to relate how I was able to tank a carrier's worth of firbolgs on sisi using nothing but a single T2 XL booster while bastioned and Marauders I, yo.

Me is wondering how well a fleet of bastion, rage torp Golems would do vs SlowCats or other sentry drone carrier doctrines...

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY

Flyinghotpocket
Small Focused Memes
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#7 - 2013-11-21 18:18:21 UTC
could you even break a t1 battleship with that dps?

Amarr Militia Representative - A jar of nitro

Uppsy Daisy
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-11-21 19:00:44 UTC
Two words. Neut Armageddon.
Omega Crendraven
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-11-21 20:18:22 UTC
Dude, if he was X-ASB fitted, you were going to be there until he ran out of charges.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#10 - 2013-11-21 21:53:30 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:


So, who had success with breaking new marauders, and how many ships you guys had?


We managed to take down a Bastion Mode Vargur with an 11-man inty gang.

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=20552062

However, I think that particular pilot made many piloting errors that contributed to his own death.

Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#11 - 2013-11-22 08:33:51 UTC
Is this another "I need to be able to kill everything in my blingy" thread?
If you really want that kill drop a blap dread. If not dont.

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ChrisLCTR
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#12 - 2013-11-24 00:33:13 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
I tried ganking a new golem today.

Probed him out guarding a mining op, warped to him, Hulks warped off just as I landed, so i tacked the golem.

I had 850dps 100k ehp probing legion and a 500dps cerberus alt.

Golem had bastion mode.

I couldnt even put a scratch into his tank, and after a minute was forced to get off the field in deep armor. Brought a LOT of friends later, but they docked up and stayed docked. Will try black ops drop later.

So, who had success with breaking new marauders, and how many ships you guys had?



Can I see the fit on your 850dps 100k EHP ::PROBING:: Legion??
Auduin Samson
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-11-24 04:54:25 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Is this another "I need to be able to kill everything in my blingy" thread?
If you really want that kill drop a blap dread. If not dont.


No, this is a "My fit didn't work, do you have any suggestions to get better" thread. The difference is subtle, but this is infinitely more tolerable. In this situation, someone recognizes their folly and takes proactive steps to improve, while in your scenario someone just complains that their ship can't do everything flawlessly.

People looking to get better = 90% of the forum's purpose.
Zoltan Lazar
#14 - 2013-11-24 06:59:54 UTC
How did you ever kill that vargur? It should have been able to just sit there until you managed to bring something with real DPS.
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#15 - 2013-11-24 11:46:51 UTC
Zoltan Lazar wrote:
How did you ever kill that vargur? It should have been able to just sit there until you managed to bring something with real DPS.



If they killed drones they might have enough dps to keep pressure on his cap and have him cap himself out. His Nos is worthless with the changes to them.
ChrisLCTR
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#16 - 2013-11-28 22:14:38 UTC
ChrisLCTR wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
I tried ganking a new golem today.

Probed him out guarding a mining op, warped to him, Hulks warped off just as I landed, so i tacked the golem.

I had 850dps 100k ehp probing legion and a 500dps cerberus alt.

Golem had bastion mode.

I couldnt even put a scratch into his tank, and after a minute was forced to get off the field in deep armor. Brought a LOT of friends later, but they docked up and stayed docked. Will try black ops drop later.

So, who had success with breaking new marauders, and how many ships you guys had?



Can I see the fit on your 850dps 100k EHP ::PROBING:: Legion??



Im going to assume that this means 850DPS total between the Cerb and Legion.

850DPS probing legion is complete BS.
Peter Moonlight
Suddenly Carebears
Verlate
#17 - 2013-11-29 23:33:16 UTC
ChrisLCTR wrote:
ChrisLCTR wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
I tried ganking a new golem today.

Probed him out guarding a mining op, warped to him, Hulks warped off just as I landed, so i tacked the golem.

I had 850dps 100k ehp probing legion and a 500dps cerberus alt.

Golem had bastion mode.

I couldnt even put a scratch into his tank, and after a minute was forced to get off the field in deep armor. Brought a LOT of friends later, but they docked up and stayed docked. Will try black ops drop later.

So, who had success with breaking new marauders, and how many ships you guys had?



Can I see the fit on your 850dps 100k EHP ::PROBING:: Legion??



Im going to assume that this means 850DPS total between the Cerb and Legion.

850DPS probing legion is complete BS.

I would also like to see the fit where the Cloaky Prober Legion is having 350 dps or *850* which is probably not said well. Cloaky Legion is only viable as a laser one, and fight that much ehp its tanked in lows, so it's around 170-200 dps top top i think, I'm flying a Legion so would like to see that. Or you just rounded a number up high, and you had even less DPS and tried taking down a Golem which is now a mini Chimera :P.
ChrisLCTR
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#18 - 2013-11-29 23:48:41 UTC
You might be surprised by the blaster legion.
LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-12-02 17:58:24 UTC  |  Edited by: LUMINOUS SPIRIT
This is to show the noobs who doubt my 850dps claim that they are, in fact, noobs. ChrisLTR, youre Kill it with Fire, you should know better how to twink t3's man. Shame on you.

subsystems:
emergent locus
liquid crystal
aug. plating
power core multiplier
chassis optimization

6 beams w/ gleam, max skills, 3 navy heatsinks, 5% turret implants = roughly 850 dps. 800 standard, 850 overloaded. I can run em for about a minute hot, usually enough to kill most ratters (gilas, ishtars, domis, ravens, drakes, etc)

1 fed navy 1600mm plate, navy adaptive nano, dcu is 106k ehp (with t2 trimarks and explosive rig ofcourse). Need 6% power implant tho, or no afterburner for you.

plenty of cpu left for sisters launcher, sansha scrambler, fed navy web. orbit at 8km, gleams do the work nicely.

i never said my legion was cloaky. I dont need cloaky. Never said it was cheap either, but im not poor. proteus would probably be even better, but i cant fly it perfectly yet... [edit] yeah just checked, proteus has a little bit less tank, but can pack 1000dps standard, and doesnt even need a power implant. Nice.
barrelblast
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-12-04 16:47:10 UTC
this thread made my day and every time i open my browser
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