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Sermon: Prematurely Freed Slaves in Hell

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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#1 - 2013-11-23 23:19:53 UTC
It is fashionable on the IGS to rescue slaves and free slaves. But do Empyreans ever consider the slaves' immortal souls?

O how terrible will be the Judgment for the Prematurely Freed Slave! Having been told that there is no God, or that God loves him and wants him to be free, he now trembles before a Righteous and Holy God, flat on his face, begging for mercy. But he shall find no mercy, for God has saved the Amarr and damned those unredeemed by service to the Amarr, for as the Scriptures say —
"None shall stand higher than you save the Sefrim,
Who serve Me as others shall serve you,
For all things under Me serve one higher;
So Amarr shall rule the worlds of the Heavens."
- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 3.20

And so God in His infinite Wisdom shall sentence the Prematurely Freed Slave to Eternal Slavery in Hell, and the Serifim shall sing how perfect are the judgments of God! And God shall laugh as Prematurely Freed Slave pleads and moans as the Serifim drag him into the Pit.

And in the Pit — in Abaddon — shall God be glorified in the Prematurely Freed Slave's torments. The Demons shall whip him to and fro, and unlike the Amarrian Holder, who must rest his whipping hand at night, the Demons shall never sleep and never cease from whipping. And the whips shall not be electric whips that inflict pain without the worst of wounds, but demonic whips that gouge out flesh, flesh that is continually regenerated only to be whipped again. The Prematurely Freed Slave shall wear a slave collar, too; but these slave collars shall not compel obedience — for in the Pit there is no hope for redemption and so no need for obedience — but this slave collar shall only inflict pains and sufferings beyond the wildest ingenuity and perversions of New Eden's slave collar programmers. Because God is just.

And so the Prematurely Freed Slave shall cry for Vitoc, shall beg for Vitoc, shall plead for Vitoc — but Vitoc shall be denied him, even as the demons torment him by placing Vitoc just and forever out of his reach. And so he shall have not a moment of respite from his pains, not in one generation of time, not in nine generations of time — for there is no redemption in the slavery of the Pit — not in a million generations of time. Yeah, even a million generations of time is but a trifle of time compared to the infinity of time that the Prematurely Freed Slave shall be tormented in Hell.

And the Prematurely Freed Slave shall look up from the Pit and see Paradise gleaming like the towers of Dam-Torsad and shall weep knowing that was denied him because some foolish Empyrean thought he should be free. Don't let this fate happen to any slaves you own or you recover. If you do not want your slaves, sell them back into slavery at the nearest Amarrian station that will accept them. Amen. Amarr Victor.



Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#2 - 2013-11-23 23:27:54 UTC
Thank you.

It's so nice to occasionally have a public reminder of how absolutely nutbag crazy the Empire, religion, the scriptures and its adherents really are. This, ladies and gentlemen, is what people are actually defending and using as their moral compass. Not the extremists, the pariahs or fringe elements. The average imperial lives by this insanity.

It bodes so well for our future, doesn't it?

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#3 - 2013-11-24 01:02:40 UTC
There is no "Hell", you colossal buffoon.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Vlad Cetes
Original Sinners
Pandemic Legion
#4 - 2013-11-24 01:19:32 UTC
How much effort was used to write this useless drivel? Try using that energy for more productive ends.
Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-11-24 01:21:33 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
but this slave collar shall only inflict pains and sufferings beyond the wildest ingenuity and perversions of New Eden's slave collar programmers. Because God is just.

Ah, I'm sorry for what I said before. I was clearly misinformed. I didn't realise you were a very convincing satirist.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#6 - 2013-11-24 01:59:01 UTC
If anyone ever wonders why I don't take the Amarrian religion seriously, here you are.

"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117

Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#7 - 2013-11-24 02:35:08 UTC
Jinari Otsito wrote:
Thank you.

It's so nice to occasionally have a public reminder of how absolutely nutbag crazy the Empire, religion, the scriptures and its adherents really are. This, ladies and gentlemen, is what people are actually defending and using as their moral compass. Not the extremists, the pariahs or fringe elements. The average imperial lives by this insanity.

It bodes so well for our future, doesn't it?


It is really quite comfy to pick out the fringers and extremists, declare them to be mainstream, declare the mainstream to be fringe and then declare how one's views are justified, no?
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#8 - 2013-11-24 02:41:54 UTC
So mainstream Imperials do not follow the scriptures then. Gotcha. That's a relief.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#9 - 2013-11-24 03:11:31 UTC
Mainstream imperials don't quote the Scriptures mindlessly and sermonize about them likewise. We have Exegetes to explain the sophisticated levels of meaning they have to us and do our best to live by that.

Following the Scriptures by the letter would be an impossible task anyway, because a lifetime isn't enough to read through them. I hope that's nothing new to you?
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-11-24 03:20:43 UTC
Funny thing about the Scriptures: Being text, no matter how big they are it can't amount to more than a Gigabyte or two at the most. Negligible, next to the capacity of even the most basic memory implants.

Food for thought.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#11 - 2013-11-24 03:22:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Jinari Otsito
So mainstream Imperials follow the scriptures as interpreted by other people... like that guy up there. Not as relieving.

Back to crazytown we go.

Edit: I've always wondered about that. They keep talking about entire warehouses of data storage. What kind of medium would that be? Stone carvings?

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2013-11-24 03:30:12 UTC
Fun fact: The scriptures aren't merely raw text.
Also, fun fact: The guy up there isn't a certified exegete or anything like that.
I hope you don't follow your laws simply like uneducated people read them, by the way, but as interpreted by law professionals, Cpt. Otsito?
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#13 - 2013-11-24 03:40:34 UTC
"Certified exegete". Certifiable person interpreting mythology because it's just crazy ramblings otherwise.
"Lawyer" or any other expert on law for that matter. Educated person interpreting the complexities of rules governing society.

Yeah, you're really into trying to give your insanities legitimacy by comparing them to actually reasonable things from civilizations that aren't barbaric and primitive, huh?

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-11-24 03:48:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Nicoletta Mithra wrote:
Fun fact: The scriptures aren't merely raw text.


Ooh! are there pictures? Because data storage can do pictures. Audio? Yep, can do that too. Oh! tactile and olfactory sense-recordings? easy, that's how they record Mind Clash matches. Maybe the scriptures are a pop-up book, that would be tricky... you'd need a volumetric model.

The point is, raw text or not they can be digitized.... Unless the only way the bloody things can be properly recorded is to print them in Neutronium ink on the flayed skin of a space whale that died from choking on a whole roast unicorn with a dark matter and fairy dust glaze, of course. Which I doubt.

If they can be digitized, t hey can be uploaded to a cybernetic memory implant: which means that somebody with even a basic implant could "read" that whole edifice of literature while waiting for their toast to brown.

All of which is a roundabout way of begging you to stop pretending that the Scriptures are this ineffable monument beyond the ken of mere immortals such as we and exempt from interpretation by anybody other than an order of specialists whose only perspective on life, and thus the only filter by which they may interpret them, is their own perpetual academia. They're not. I'll grant you that the combined learnings and philosophy of an entire civilization is more than anybody can comfortably grok in a reasonable length of time, but let's please not attribute them with powers of divine inscrutability.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2013-11-24 03:57:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicoletta Mithra
Cpt. Otsitso, do you really are so primitive or do you think that I wouldn't see that you are committing an act of vicious circular reasoning here? You're not even entertaining in commiting your petitio principia here or creative in evading the question. Why should I defend Amarr culture against accusations that find their only factual substratum in what you dreamed up in your autistic mind?

I'd suggest to you to turn yourself in for re-education, but that would imply that you got any education in the first place. Go to highschool and play your little games there. Maybe you learn there that the Scriptures aren't by any stretch merely made up of what might qualify as 'mythology' by the widest of (remotely valid) definitions.

I'm bored by your mediocrity.

As to you Cpt. Hakatain: I see you have no need of lawyers either, because you can read the entirety of Caldari State law while having breakfast. Good for you.

Have a good night.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#16 - 2013-11-24 04:01:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
It's worth noting that while we can store massive volumes of data in our minds, it takes time for us to comprehend it and understand it on any practical level. This is precisely why piloting skills are 'injected' at a controlled rate, because simply having the data stored in our memories does not lead to an innate understanding of what all that data is and how it applies to our lives and understanding of the world around us.

Data is not itself an understanding, as you well know. It must be introduced in certain order, by certain prerequisites, for it to be understood correctly.

EDIT: I should clarify and admit that this is not the only reason our injected-learning rates are controlled. It's also for safety reasons, as I have been told.

Katrina Oniseki

Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-11-24 04:13:46 UTC
Quite so. But I'm prepared to bet that the total amount of data I've absorbed via implant learning over the last eight years, being sufficient to allow me to fly in excess of two hundred different ship hulls, all of them to a high standard, and equip them with their dizzying variety of equipment, weaponry, maximize their performance, maximize my ability to co-ordinate whole fleets of them, not forgetting the ability to build most of them, reverse-engineer advanced technology, hack security systems, mine, refine, scan, buy, sell, administrate ground facilities from orbit and generate tame wormholes that will fling several thousand meters of starship across the light years...

I'm prepared to estimate that the total data I've uploaded into my brain in learning how to do all that probably exceeds the total file size of the the Amarrian Scriptures.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-11-24 04:45:16 UTC
And is vastly more applicable to every facet of your life.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-11-24 05:28:02 UTC
If God was forgiving and benevolent, I doubt he would create a realm dedicated to torturing souls for all eternity.

And if God is so powerful, why hasn't he destroyed tbese pesky demons? Isn't it contradictory to claim there is one all powerful God while also believing in other entities that can override God's will and lure humans away from his grace?

Part of why the Amarr faith never applead to me is because there are more plotholes than your average B Holomovie.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Cuci Cairi
#20 - 2013-11-24 05:37:17 UTC
Nauplius wrote:

And in the Pit — in Abaddon — shall God be glorified in the Prematurely Freed Slave's torments.



Wait, hell is a battleship?
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