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Attention New GalMil Pilots - The Gallente Elite Have Forgotten About You

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Yuri Antollare
Moira.
#181 - 2013-11-23 08:46:31 UTC
Aioi Yukko wrote:
Post more killboard related stff yuri, post more. And if you wannt to find any pro-test articles in tmi, you better be ready to head to an alternate dimention. THE END.


Oh I'm the last person who wants to drag killboards through this, but if TEST want to try to rewrite history then I think I should mention the fact that killboards do actually exist and you end up just looking stupid, delusional and or a liar to anyone that checks them.

Yun Kuai
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#182 - 2013-11-23 09:25:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Yun Kuai
Beardon wrote:
Calmil Pilot of almost a year stepping in to defend the Galmil here. Warzone control actually doesn't matter. T4 has been hit 3 times by Calmil since my arrival, and T1 isn't bad at all, as it inflates the value of the LP. The best case scenario in my mind is holding T3 or T2, as there's a bunch of systems to plex while I'm feeling like going about solo, and the lp payout is good when no one feels like fighting me. The Galmil thing about not caring about WZ control isn't new, and I'm pretty sure that I speak for most established FW alliances in any warzone when I say that they don't care about WZ control either. I care about lp only insofar as it affects my ability to field ships, and fielding FW ships really isn't that hard (omg 5 mil kestrels, how will my wallet bear that burden?). I occasionally buy shiny ships, and then rarely have the chance to field em.

It's easy to get excited at the visual or the WZ control, but holding T4 really just translates into not being able to plex without a fleet backing you up, because a smart militia only dplexes essential systems in while T1. This drives the aggressor into home systems which can be heavily defended, and with a fleet, you're barley getting T1 lp. As plexing crawls to a halt, the galmil will start gaining ground, and the pendelum will swing the other way. We might hold T4 for a week or two, **** maybe even a month seeing how we vastly outnumber Galmil with TEST on our side, but numbers alone can't stop the pendulum.

Personally, I have not given a **** about WZ control in a long time. That being said, TEST has been a great presence here. Fleets open to militia all day, great attitude, and they're really helping a lot of folks out with their programs, like the LP payout, and the free ships they huck at those who need em (don't forget to donate to test free if you're taking ships from them and have a fat wallet). When I've joined their fleets, I've had a great time, and hope that they stick around with us in Innia for a long while.



Just reposting this here as it seems this was magically overlooked by test's damage control team of forum warriors.

I'll file this under D for "Denial"

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ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#183 - 2013-11-23 13:17:49 UTC  |  Edited by: ZheoTheThird
Yun Kuai wrote:
Just reposting this here as it seems this was magically overlooked by test's damage control team of forum warriors.

I'll file this under D for "Denial"

Sorry, I just cashed in 10B worth of LP, and it's kind of hard to hear you. I'm probably going to blow it on an incursion vindi. FW is great, I only wish gallente put up more of a challenge. Resorting to zipping around in inties/dramiels just catching afk missioners/plexers to inflate that kills/month number on your KB that noone checks anyways isn't exactly what I'd call "winning FW". Sometimes I wish this was in null, we could just hellcamp nenna for a week and plex/mission in peace for months. Wouldn't be as fun though.

To what the dude posted you quoted: hey, thanks for liking TEST. The "not being able to plex without a fleet" one is wrong though, he assumes that oplexing is the only thing worth doing. Cloaked+stabbed ventures dplexing in some backwater system are uncatchable. Which is what our non-missioneers are doing in complete safety. His whole second paragraph works under the false assumption that TEST is a militia group like any other. We're the biggest carebears this game has ever seen and are dplexing like crazy. I don't think galmil has gotten a single defended system since TEST joined FW. Apart from ladistier, which was on the very bottom of our priority list and completely undefended.

This is not a damage control post since there's no damage to control.
Aioi Yukko
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#184 - 2013-11-23 15:36:43 UTC
No no no, i like the name. I want that to be my title

"damage control team of forum warriors"
got a nice ring to it.

TEST Damage Control Team of Forum Warrior.

Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#185 - 2013-11-23 15:43:41 UTC
Keep farming then. It's what you came for.

But stop assuming you're halfway decent because you can farm more than us.
Aioi Yukko
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#186 - 2013-11-23 15:51:40 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
Keep farming then. It's what you came for.

But stop assuming you're halfway decent because you can farm more than us.


Victory achieved.

TEST Damage Control Team of Forum Warrior.

Rinai Vero
Blades of Liberty
#187 - 2013-11-23 17:04:20 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
I don't think galmil has gotten a single defended system since TEST joined FW. Apart from ladistier, which was on the very bottom of our priority list and completely undefended.


See what you did there? You almost sound like a GalMil pilot already!
Beardon
CRIME CRIME
#188 - 2013-11-23 18:19:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Beardon
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Yun Kuai wrote:
Just reposting this here as it seems this was magically overlooked by test's damage control team of forum warriors.

I'll file this under D for "Denial"

Sorry, I just cashed in 10B worth of LP, and it's kind of hard to hear you. I'm probably going to blow it on an incursion vindi. FW is great, I only wish gallente put up more of a challenge. Resorting to zipping around in inties/dramiels just catching afk missioners/plexers to inflate that kills/month number on your KB that noone checks anyways isn't exactly what I'd call "winning FW". Sometimes I wish this was in null, we could just hellcamp nenna for a week and plex/mission in peace for months. Wouldn't be as fun though.

To what the dude posted you quoted: hey, thanks for liking TEST. The "not being able to plex without a fleet" one is wrong though, he assumes that oplexing is the only thing worth doing. Cloaked+stabbed ventures dplexing in some backwater system are uncatchable. Which is what our non-missioneers are doing in complete safety. His whole second paragraph works under the false assumption that TEST is a militia group like any other. We're the biggest carebears this game has ever seen and are dplexing like crazy. I don't think galmil has gotten a single defended system since TEST joined FW. Apart from ladistier, which was on the very bottom of our priority list and completely undefended.

This is not a damage control post since there's no damage to control.


Recall that I'm not speaking from the perspective of TEST, but from a FW based alliance. Sure you can plex stabbed and cloaked, but that's sinking pretty low in our culture, if you're plexing, you fight or give up the plex. But even if you're cloaked and stabbed in a back water system, you'll still get chased out a lot more frequently (or be forced to cloak) than in lower tiers due to the sheer density of vulnerable systems.

My entire second paragraph is not based on a false assumption about TEST. In fact, it has very little to do with TEST at all, it's just how FW works (trust, I've been here longer than most of you cats, I've seen it happen over and over). Also, the oplexing bit... d-plexing is profitable if the system is nearing vulnerable (I think over 50% contested in T4 = T2 LP, being worth more the more contested it is). That's why I mentioned that smart militias stop dplexing non-essential systems while in t1, after a little bit of time they just go up to vulnerable, and are no longer plexable, thus no longer profitable, the number of profitable systems dwindles and the cycle repeats. So that 'crap' that the Galmil are saying about only caring about home systems is based on more than excuse making, it's just not being utterly oblivious to the FW mechanics. When Calmil were in T1, we did the exact same thing. Not to 'move the goal posts', but because we're not idiots. I mean, when the Gallente push back, are you really going to give a **** that Immuri, or Pavanakka fell? **** no. Because they're useless systems anyways.

Like I said, TEST is an awesome presence, but you're not doing anything that hasn't been done before. I really don't want to come across as a hater here because you guys are doing great things, I just also have a lot of respect for the Gallente corps and alliances, and think they deserve better than the accusations being hucked at them in this thread. Winning fights is a lot more brag worthy than WZ control. Go whelp them and then call them scrubs.
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#189 - 2013-11-23 21:59:27 UTC
Beardon wrote:
[Like I said, TEST is an awesome presence, but you're not doing anything that hasn't been done before. I really don't want to come across as a hater here because you guys are doing great things, I just also have a lot of respect for the Gallente corps and alliances, and think they deserve better than the accusations being hucked at them in this thread. Winning fights is a lot more brag worthy than WZ control. Go whelp them and then call them scrubs.


This tbh. Test hasnt achieved anything that couldnt be easily expected from an alliance of their size in the current warzone conditions. Dont get me wrong its good you've re-energised the pvp side but that happens every time a new bunch of guys come and try their luck, **** posting and endlessly bragging about it just makes you look bad.

Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin

you're welcome

ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#190 - 2013-11-23 22:09:22 UTC
Rinai Vero wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
I don't think galmil has gotten a single defended system since TEST joined FW. Apart from ladistier, which was on the very bottom of our priority list and completely undefended.


See what you did there? You almost sound like a GalMil pilot already!

Nah, I lack the complete denial of reality and the inflated ego to truly make a great qcats/jf pilot. And the padded kbstats. If only NPC kills counted, all these sector commanders I've killed would get me into black legion
Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#191 - 2013-11-23 23:14:00 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
Rinai Vero wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
I don't think galmil has gotten a single defended system since TEST joined FW. Apart from ladistier, which was on the very bottom of our priority list and completely undefended.


See what you did there? You almost sound like a GalMil pilot already!

Nah, I lack the complete denial of reality and the inflated ego to truly make a great qcats/jf pilot. And the padded kbstats. If only NPC kills counted, all these sector commanders I've killed would get me into black legion



Lol

Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis
#192 - 2013-11-24 01:14:57 UTC
Mabego Tetrimon wrote:
i prefer shitting on Squid farmers

Oh, I know. You've gotten quite a few manticores in the past few days, mine too. And I had faction launchers on there :). Nurf inties' speed, I guess. It's true though, approaching someone at 6km/s with a 25km point range takes quite some skill.
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lame,


why no rage, c mon....


hate you now!


btw nice reaction on that Rev today, TEST, Talons owes you some now...


(if it was not all a bait^^)
Aioi Yukko
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#193 - 2013-11-24 02:33:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Aioi Yukko
Mabego Tetrimon wrote:
i prefer shitting on Squid farmers


ZheoTheThird wrote:
Oh, I know. You've gotten quite a few manticores in the past few days, mine too. And I had faction launchers on there :). Nurf inties' speed, I guess. It's true though, approaching someone at 6km/s with a 25km point range takes quite some skill.


Mabego Tetrimon wrote:

lame,


why no rage, c mon....


hate you now!


btw nice reaction on that Rev today, TEST, Talons owes you some now...


(if it was not all a bait^^)


L 2 quote bro.

TEST Damage Control Team of Forum Warrior.

ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#194 - 2013-11-24 04:03:10 UTC
This just in: big Enaluri offensive fails right on the finish line.

While TEST was busy taking Oicx, defending a friendly Revelation (it got into 12% structure, oh boy) and shooting Khan Farshatok, Gallente apparently thought that it would be a great idea to focus all their efforts on taking Enaluri. Unopposed, they ground through almost 90% in just a few days and were planning on taking it today, achieving a major victory by taking their first strategically important system.

Unfortunately, TEST decided that this amusing and slightly desperate attempt at making an offensive should be stopped, so we flew over there after killing the Oicx IHUB and kicked them out with little to no problems, being dirty tryhard blobbers in the process. The crying in galmilitia chat was glorious.

GF, please don't stop being bad
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#195 - 2013-11-24 04:10:32 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
This just in: big Enaluri offensive fails right on the finish line.

While TEST was busy taking Oicx, defending a friendly Revelation (it got into 12% structure, oh boy) and shooting Khan Farshatok, Gallente apparently thought that it would be a great idea to focus all their efforts on taking Enaluri. Unopposed, they ground through almost 90% in just a few days and were planning on taking it today, achieving a major victory by taking their first strategically important system.

Unfortunately, TEST decided that this amusing and slightly desperate attempt at making an offensive should be stopped, so we flew over there after killing the Oicx IHUB and kicked them out with little to no problems, being dirty tryhard blobbers in the process. The crying in galmilitia chat was glorious.

GF, please don't stop being bad


The mighty tier 4 caldari militia return Enalui to stable.

Spot the deliberate mistakes :)
Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis
#196 - 2013-11-24 09:36:23 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
This just in: big Enaluri offensive


wow, wait, what BIG offense^^ get your intel clear
ALUCARD 1208
Digital Ghosts
Nourv Gate Security Commission
#197 - 2013-11-24 10:14:33 UTC  |  Edited by: ALUCARD 1208
enaluri looks to be in gallente hands after downtime well done on saving it test isnt there 2 lvl 4 mission agents there and wasnt zheo crowing about it was the only system theyve took worth taking for said agent What?What?What?

Also looks like u had a bump on ur head there about the enaluri fight gals won isk and death count war and took the system

#smugasfk

*waits for the damage control with popcorn*
Starbuck05
Abiding Ormolus
#198 - 2013-11-24 11:10:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Starbuck05
While i cannot speak for the whole of cal mil,i would like to voice my own oppinion. I enjoy tier 4 ..because its how i fund my pvp and because tier4 i can make isk easier..obviously. and whie test may or may not done something that couldnt be done by anyother entity i still value and apreciate theyr hard work for getting cal mil this far. For all intence and purpoises they have brought new light to cal mil and they also run fleets and deplex and donate..this is something other people don't do or don't do it this strongly.

While they may be annoying with all this forum ranting and asci posting in local and God knows what else,they are atleast doing something while other corps and alliances just enter cal mil to make isk awox and to not give a ****.


I may or may not be wrong in all i say but al this forum warrioring is = 0 . All that matters is what you do in game. Which btw i dont have to remind people that this is a game and not real life world war 3

Just because i am blond does not make me stoopid !

Bouh Revetoile
In Wreck we thrust
#199 - 2013-11-24 11:43:59 UTC
Starbuck05 wrote:
I may or may not be wrong in all i say but al this forum warrioring is = 0 . All that matters is what you do in game. Which btw i dont have to remind people that this is a game and not real life world war 3
EVE is real ! But you're right, that must be WW46 by now, not 3 ; we are fighting caldari for a long time now.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#200 - 2013-11-24 14:10:15 UTC
My little baby has grown to 10 pages? She's so beautiful.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War