EVE General Discussion

to 1. Well, I would also not complain about 5 shiphull bonused sentries in a cruiser, offering 800 DPS, plus laser turrets, pushing it to 1000+ DPS with CovOps cloak. :D
DPS is not enough for 4/10 DEDs??? That is strange...
Well, believe me, the drone mbit/s nerf was more than necessary. :)

I love the Stratios, but agree that CCP probably should have specialized it a bit more to be an exploration ship at the cost of being a combat ship. The recloaking bonus would serve it better than the energy turrets bonus (and 4 hardpoints?) in my opinion, especially since I notice that many people are already creating fittings that don't use them. Maybe it should have had better agility or a smaller sig as well, although the large cargo hold is nice for the role. I also think that a swift cloaky ship would have been better with shield bonuses over armor bonuses, especially with a 5/5/5 layout. Armor tanking doesn't leave much room for drone damage amps, and gives us an extra mid that I ended up using a web on. I would easily take a 4/4/6 over a 5/5/5.

I actually have one of my lower SP alts using it like a cloaky Sentry PVE Vexor and it does a decent job.

For now it would seem like a great rookie cruiser and maybe even an alternate for a Vexor, especially with the 920 PWG and 400 CPU and low skills to pilot. It will obviously not perform as well as an Ishtar for PVE or a T3 cruiser but is much easier to pilot and fit.

Only members of the future RvB Universal Police Force will be allowed cloaks without targetting delays.

Because the CovOps cloak with that crapload of DPS would allow me to chose my targets more efficiently, position myself much better, plainly win much more fights... :)

Stratios goes for 482M in Amarr, 500M in average.

To me the Stratios seems already slightly overpowered as is now, considering the lower skills requirements in respect of Recon (and prices will drop soon). Remving the delay would make better (as recon) than a "true" recon.

Don't spam the cloak needlessly. Cloaking as a functionality is meant to be used for "defensive" purposes.
The SOE cloaking device is an upate of the T2 Improved Cloaking Device which in addition only allows full functionality of the warp- and impulse drives. It uses the CovOps module, but the technology is not that far advanced.

SOE ships are TECH-ONE ships.
A cloaking reactivation delay of 15 seconds is reserved for TECH-TWO CovOps ships, the stealth bombers...!!!

There is no module that forces a cloaked ship out of cloak, it has no counters.
I personally find it pretty annoying already that CCP released a DPS ship with even armor resistances (free unpenalized EANM) and overall short training time (no racial ship level 5 required) with almost CovOps cloaking functionality, which is just overpowered and annoying already.

The subject "cloaking" is the cause of ENDLESS "nerf cloaking cry cry" threads, that pop up almost daily on the forums for years and years, and years to come...

Unbelievable that these "buff cloaking" threads pop up since the advent of the annoying SOE-ships, all wishing for a overpowered cloaky all-in-one ship that just can do everything...

If you wish to just travel, then use a Shuttle, CovOps, Interceptor, or just ANY SHIP, properly travel fitted to get from system A to B in low/null sec.

Again, you spam the cloak too much.
Once you entered warp, then there is no need to keep the cloaking activated, especially if you are not in nullsec where you might run into bubbles. VERY rarely you find gatecamps with HIC's and seriously, one hardly warps from gate to gate anyway, except one is in highsec.

Every pilot, traveling though low/null should spend definitely more than 30 seconds to scout out the system, before jumping into the next system, lol.
Hm, I just smell a highsec pilot who is not familiar with the low/null-sec life and wants to keep hold to his easy-going-highsec mentalities and wants to apply them in the entire EVE-universe...right?
I really hope that this is not gonna happen...The game is getting dumbed down way too much already, eliminating challenges, and making it getting boring more and more quickly.

Off-topic, this dumb-down-policy-horse, CCP is riding, conflicts with the long-term concept that you find in the extended skill training functionality...The game needs to be "difficult and challenging" because of the nature of its years-long-character developments, or else no sane person will stick to the game because of boredom. Some inexperienced people are corrupting the first planted roots of EVE in the development section and are leaving the path, leading towards the wilderness...
Most of us come from other easy-going-MMO's or at least know other MMO's and play EVE because we seek to play a mature and intentionally "difficult and somewhat challenging and a bit frustrating" game. Other easy MMO's are already present en masse, available and even free to download...
We even intentionally pay for the game in order to escape the current trash-MMO market and to have some challenge and experience some difficulty and consequences to our actions.

The majority of my EVE-life I spent in low- and nullsec, being an occasional highsec visitor for a couple of minutes per week/month or so.
Once you learn the "basics and tricks" of getting your ships from system to system, then you will see that the SOE-cloaking is ALL you could EVER possibly wish for.

Just start there, practice how to get any ship through low/null camps with a T1 Prototype cloaking device and learn from experiences.
I got all kind of ships, ranging from Shuttles to Battleships through all sorts of gatecamps, ranging from 1-30+ ships in all space security levels. That's what I do day in and out...A standard T1 prototype cloaking is more than enough.
Even a cloaking reactivation delay of one minute would be absolutely sufficient for the SOE ships.

The annoying SOE ships are plainly overpowered, especially in the hands of an experienced pilot.
Enjoy your time with the SOE ships, for I can hardly imagine that they stay the way they currently are.
Nerfhammer incoming - unfortunately in the next 5 years or so, as we all know how much time CCP needs for rebalancing and bugfixes.