EVE General Discussion

I can already see it now they're gonna push it down our throats and say "IT"S THE SECOND COMING"

Because we all know how visionary hilmar is!
The comments on that page are pretty funny.



sad but true.

it's like a drug now, soon after VR people will want to BE in the game world always asking for more immersion and getting their daily dose then leaving it behind.. it's kinda sad to think that games were supposed to be fun and how over the years they've become all about addiction, in the long long future everyone will be like those fat fucks from wall-e or the surrogates..

Worst part is they will force this **** upon us with their ads.. and people like captain tardbar (dat name) poasting :s

can't wait for the "Person has heart attack from playing horror game on OR, but don't worry it only affects 1% of the population!" you remember those nightmares you used to have ? well they just became real
(^copyrighted slogan, tm tm something)

It could, but this one won't. It's 3D with head-tracking. It's suited for some purposes and will (as always) be terrible for others.

Look at the touch-based computing revolution that has happened in the last few years. It turns out to be completely the right thing for mobile computing, but it's still horrible for desktop use and large data entry because of the ergonomics, the speed, the feedback, and because the separation between mechanical input and display output is often a good thing.

…well, up until 5 years ago, at least, and now they're making a comback since it turns out that computer games isn't the best I/O for some of the experiences that board games offer (not to mention the immense design advantage board games have). Funnily enough, there are plenty of people who pay what is essentially subscription to board games. They tend to be yearly or quarterly or so, but still…

In both cases, no, because both rely on very specific types of information delivery — in particular a very stand-off view and lots of UI, both of which makes VR the wrong display format. You don't need 360°×360° to watch a flat area from a god perspective with tons of fiddly UI bits and tables on top of it, and trying to squeeze it in just makes for awful ergonomics that makes you lose out on critical information.

Sure, you could just use them as 3D goggles, but that's more of a gfx driver-level problem than something that the game needs to be designed for — it's not really VR at that point. VR works for a first-person perspective, but a first-person perspective doesn't work for everything. Take the example mentioned earlier. It could be great for watching play-backs of recorded fights; it would be horrid in every way for controlling those same fights.

Unfortunately, Monopoly is probably a very bad example in that case since it's such an antiquated and horribly designed game… Try TTR or something instead.

…much like thinking it will change everything with complete disregard for proper application is equally shortsighted. The desktop hasn't died just because there's been a mobile and console revolution — each has its own application.

Heh, i was literal when talking about my eyes. I need severe custom correction to achieve a poor eyesight (20/200 in American terms with my glasses on) and none of these devices really works with correction glasses (and OR is plain incompatible with ANY correction). Even those with some inbuilt correction like OR can't correct anything beyond a slightly annoying myopia/hiperopia.

Now think of everyone who's using custom (prescription?) correction glasses/contact lenses and you'll notice that there is a serious interfacing challenge, with the added inconvenient that a blurry 3D image right above your cornea is way more eye-stressing than a blurry 2D screen 20 or 30 cms away.

Professional who use focusing devices soon learn to set their eyes to infinite and then focus the device, because anything else becomes stressing and eventually painful. People using slightly out of focus VR devices will soon learn how headaches are a consequence of using them for about an hour, more or less. These devices are not intended for a continuous use, i.e. no serious gaming on OR.

And that's the eyes alone. Enter balance and self-perception and the challenges to wearable VR become massive. "20+ years old and still trying" massive...

Can I watch p0rn with it? if not, then it's not that terrific.