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[Suggestion]: Character rename for PLEX
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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-11-22 07:58:18 UTC
Tora Hamaji wrote:
As the title says.

Currently it's possible to trade characters legally, remap attributes for plex, and sometimes change name if deemed insulting in some languages.

One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.

it's already possible if flagged for name change when reported for some insulting names. So why not simply allow renaming for plex?


Edit: this feature should not be a way to purge identity and history. the previous names MUST be listed under character info somewhere.
The character should also be found when someone searches for the old name.
scammers and spies souldn't be able to escape the consequences with just a simple name change.


Wow, you're the first one to actually post a name change thread that would not benefit only scammers and corp spies...

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

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Bleg
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-11-22 11:08:03 UTC
Sorry OP but the big flaw to this is that in PvP you don't check everyone's bio, sometimes you just scan local/your overview.
So this lets them obscure their identity.
Anthar Thebess
#23 - 2013-11-22 13:46:40 UTC
+1 to first post.

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TheMercenaryKing
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-11-22 14:28:39 UTC
While the idea is sound, there is a problem with it.

2 Characters "AAAA" and "ZZZZ". "AAAA" Changes his name to "BBBB", could "ZZZZ" then change his name to "AAAA"?
If "BBBB" then changes his name back to "AAAA", could "ZZZZ" change his name to "BBBB"?
Mag's
Azn Empire
#25 - 2013-11-22 15:00:42 UTC
Tora Hamaji wrote:
Evei Shard wrote:
Chribba wrote:
I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...


Have you noticed though over the past few years that these threads are gaining more and more positive response?


I don't think he understood my post at all.
Oh he understood it completely and I agree with him. If you don't like the name of a char you are looking at buying, then don't buy it.

The one thing you fail to understand, is that this change means everyone will be able to use this service. Even if they are not selling their char on, to another party.

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Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-11-22 16:04:49 UTC
Bleg wrote:
Sorry OP but the big flaw to this is that in PvP you don't check everyone's bio, sometimes you just scan local/your overview.
So this lets them obscure their identity.
In a game where everyone has 14 alts - I think this concern is overblown. And I also doubt someone would go through the trouble of paying a plex to try to deceive you, especially when you can show info on the toon and see the name change history.
Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-11-22 16:07:04 UTC
TheMercenaryKing wrote:
While the idea is sound, there is a problem with it.

2 Characters "AAAA" and "ZZZZ". "AAAA" Changes his name to "BBBB", could "ZZZZ" then change his name to "AAAA"?
If "BBBB" then changes his name back to "AAAA", could "ZZZZ" change his name to "BBBB"?
I think we are all assuming that once a name has been used, it will show up in a character's name change history, and cannot be used again. Although, I don't see a problem with someone changing their name back to one of their previous names if they have a change of heart.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#28 - 2013-11-22 17:12:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
OP clearly has no idea what a search function is or how to use it. Perhaps learning these things should be of more interest to OP than ill-advised new ways to spend a PLEX.

Requesting a lock as this is a duplicate thread and still-open threads on this very topic still currently exist. A simple search for "Character Rename" is enough to find them.
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2013-11-22 22:03:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Tora Hamaji wrote:
As the title says.

Currently it's possible to trade characters legally, remap attributes for plex, and sometimes change name if deemed insulting in some languages.

One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.

it's already possible if flagged for name change when reported for some insulting names. So why not simply allow renaming for plex?


Edit: this feature should not be a way to purge identity and history. the previous names MUST be listed under character info somewhere.
The character should also be found when someone searches for the old name.
scammers and spies souldn't be able to escape the consequences with just a simple name change.

no. there are a number of very good reasons that character renaming is not allowed. Not the least of which is that in eve actions have consequences.. that means that if you are stupid and name your characters something you hate later on it's your own fault...if others hate it you won't be able to sell the character.. and if you develop a reputation for chat smack and theft in game you cannot change the name or easily sell an infamous character. I side with those that say nay, all names are final.

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GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
#30 - 2013-11-22 22:12:10 UTC
You mean my character DONKEYFLUFFER457 who terrorized the Outer Rim in 2008 is about to get a new lease on life?

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Seranova Farreach
Biomass Negative
#31 - 2013-11-22 22:43:24 UTC
i strongly disagree with "plex 4" what ever i believe even ccp once said they wouldn't ever implement plex for renames based around a name could have built a reputation so that is the risk for buying rather then skilling a character.

plex prices are already rather costly with the current plex 4 whatever on top of the various price spikes due to Plex-Aid's.

I vote NO to a rename on the grounds it could easily be abused by transferring a character to another account for the soul purpose of getting a name change after doing an AWOX or corp theft or what ever.. and on the grounds that plex is getting ridiculous

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Vanja Mojisola
Voidhounds
Pretenders
#32 - 2013-11-23 01:17:49 UTC
As long as block lists and contacts are preserved, then I don't see the problem with name changes. A history of name changes could be attached to the character.

Presumably every character has a unique ID associated with it in the database, and the name is just a property. If all contacts, blocks, etc are associated with that UUID rather than with the username, it should be trivial to update the name and retain all metadata and graphs that character is associated with.
Vanja Mojisola
Voidhounds
Pretenders
#33 - 2013-11-23 01:18:39 UTC
I would love to rename all my alts to have the same "last name" so as to reduce confusion with my corpmates.
BigSako
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-11-23 03:36:58 UTC
let's introduce another ******** plex isk sink in the game. oh wait, that's what ccp wants.
Fifth Blade
Jump Drive Appreciation Society
#35 - 2013-11-24 14:25:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Fifth Blade
Mag's wrote:
Tora Hamaji wrote:
Evei Shard wrote:
Chribba wrote:
I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...


Have you noticed though over the past few years that these threads are gaining more and more positive response?


I don't think he understood my post at all.
Oh he understood it completely and I agree with him. If you don't like the name of a char you are looking at buying, then don't buy it.

The one thing you fail to understand, is that this change means everyone will be able to use this service. Even if they are not selling their char on, to another party.


Agreed. You shouldn't be able to obscure your identity in a persistent world like EvE, where reputation matters.

Might be popular among certain groups in the game, just like instantly travelling from one place to another would be in a lot of mmos but it's still a terrible idea and harmful to the game.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#36 - 2013-11-26 15:40:03 UTC
GreasyCarl Semah wrote:
You mean my character DONKEYFLUFFER457 who terrorized the Outer Rim in 2008 is about to get a new lease on life?

Be still my heart!


+1 for the name DONKEYFLUFFER457 Lol

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Tora Hamaji
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2013-12-01 20:07:30 UTC
Fifth Blade wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Tora Hamaji wrote:
Evei Shard wrote:
Chribba wrote:
I keep voting no on such features, has to be some downside to trying to buy your way ahead...


Have you noticed though over the past few years that these threads are gaining more and more positive response?


I don't think he understood my post at all.
Oh he understood it completely and I agree with him. If you don't like the name of a char you are looking at buying, then don't buy it.

The one thing you fail to understand, is that this change means everyone will be able to use this service. Even if they are not selling their char on, to another party.


Agreed. You shouldn't be able to obscure your identity in a persistent world like EvE, where reputation matters.

Might be popular among certain groups in the game, just like instantly travelling from one place to another would be in a lot of mmos but it's still a terrible idea and harmful to the game.


there is no way to escape your identity or identities because they will be FOREVER displayed when someone shows info on you and goes to past names tab!

and if if they search your old name then your new char will appear there as well!

i can't stand people with thick brains. read the freaking OP!
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#38 - 2013-12-01 20:14:09 UTC
So if you can't escape the old identity and the terrible and/or undesired name remains there for everyone to see, what's the point of changing your name?

There's no difference and thus no point and thus your request has no merit.
Kazumi Kouvo
Paragons of Starlight
#39 - 2013-12-01 21:29:17 UTC
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:
So if you can't escape the old identity and the terrible and/or undesired name remains there for everyone to see, what's the point of changing your name?

There's no difference and thus no point and thus your request has no merit.


Because the changed name would be the main thing you see, not the old name. The old name would just be there so people don't try to change their identity every time the old one is worn out.

And your point has no merit. A person could really change their name, but the old name would still be in City Hall's records somewhere.

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#40 - 2013-12-02 03:09:47 UTC
Tora Hamaji wrote:
One of the most annoying things about Character trade is that you can't truly make a character you buy to be yours, since the name was chosen by someone else. often a character has a perfect skill profile to suit your need, but a ridiculous name that just doesn't fit you.



If you don't like the name, don't buy the character.

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