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Rail Tengu

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Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2013-11-22 20:56:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Hashur
How about something like this for doing sites in C1-C2. My idea is to kill the small **** from 100KM with lead or spike then move in to about 50 and load thorium doing 450 dps.

With the new mobile depot, i can refit this in the field to put a probe launcher on, date/relic analyzer as i find exploration sites.

I would also carry the Covert Reconfig and Interdiction Nullifier subsystems for traveling and exploring through WH space.

I know there is the ever present "better watch out for roving gangs of hunters" Obviously if i get caught im dead, shame on me.

Will it work against the Sleepers is my question. Ill probably try it no matter what is said, but just want some feedback.

Cap stable with the longer range ammo loaded. 5-7 minutes with plutonium or antimatter loaded, although i dont plan to get that close


[Tengu, WH]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
Cap Recharger II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script
Cap Recharger II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Iron Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Iron Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Iron Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Iron Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Iron Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Iron Charge M
Improved Cloaking Device II

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Tengu Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Tengu Offensive - Magnetic Infusion Basin
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor (no use for fuel catalyst since im MWD fit - this help with scan strength)

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Bane Nucleus
Dark Venture Corporation
Kitchen Sinkhole
#2 - 2013-11-22 21:06:21 UTC
It will work but I am not sure why you'd risk a Tengu when a Drake will run the c1/c2 sites just fine and costs a fraction of the price.

No trolling please

Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-11-22 21:15:04 UTC
Bane Nucleus wrote:
It will work but I am not sure why you'd risk a Tengu when a Drake will run the c1/c2 sites just fine and costs a fraction of the price.



Because of the ability to refit to covert ops, and because i want to be able to hit out to 100+ with the rails.

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Junoo Roppo
State Of Unrest
#4 - 2013-11-22 21:38:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Junoo Roppo
[c4 250mms rr]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Power Diagnostic System II

Gistum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Gistum C-Type 10MN Microwarpdrive
Cap Recharger II

250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M

Medium Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Medium Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Tengu Offensive - Magnetic Infusion Basin
Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers

Implant_Active=Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Implant_Active=Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Implant_Active=Zainou 'Deadeye' Medium Hybrid Turret MH-805

What I'd use. Though don't mess up with frigs or you'll waste time warping around to reposition yourself. Also the shield booster is probably too much.
Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-11-22 21:38:09 UTC
Come to think of it, i bet this would work in DED sites in Null. Only danger i see is the NPC frigates rushing me. I would mount a fed navy web and burn away while killing them with the rails from a distance. Thoughts?

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Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-11-22 21:42:06 UTC
Junoo Roppo wrote:
[c4 250mms rr]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Power Diagnostic System II

Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster
EM Ward Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Tracking Computer II,Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II

250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M
250mm Railgun II,Federation Navy Thorium Charge M

Medium Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Medium Hybrid Locus Coordinator II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node
Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Tengu Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Tengu Offensive - Magnetic Infusion Basin
Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor

Implant_Active=Genolution Core Augmentation CA-1
Implant_Active=Genolution Core Augmentation CA-2
Implant_Active=Zainou 'Deadeye' Medium Hybrid Turret MH-805

What I'd use. Though don't mess up with frigs or you'll waste time warping around to reposition yourself. Also the shield booster is probably too much.



What about mobility? No prop mod at all?

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Junoo Roppo
State Of Unrest
#7 - 2013-11-22 21:47:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Junoo Roppo
I meant to post with the MWD. I'd swap the TC for a MWD. Rest is unchanged.

Edit: I edited the fit, it's a bit different.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#8 - 2013-11-22 23:43:46 UTC
Maximus Hashur wrote:
Come to think of it, i bet this would work in DED sites in Null. Only danger i see is the NPC frigates rushing me. I would mount a fed navy web and burn away while killing them with the rails from a distance. Thoughts?


It would be doable for some sites, but most of the time you'd want to be using antimatter or javelin to max your dps. And its inferior to an HML tengu in virtually every way when used for nullsec DEDs.

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Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-11-23 05:13:24 UTC
yea ive tried my fit against sleepers in both a class 5 and a class 3 so far. the tank does not hold up and the dps is not enough to kill them quickly. Back to the drawing board. Those sleeper gun emplacements are tough.


I knew the class 5 would be too much but I thought a class 3 would be doable.

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Razer Aideron
Ship Spinning 101
#10 - 2013-11-23 08:23:58 UTC
Legions are better pve platforms in low class holes, they can clear c3's ez mode. Scorch op. Anything after c4's usualy require friends.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#11 - 2013-11-23 14:13:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Icarus Able
Good luck killing them before the frigs MWD towards you at 3kms. Just use Missiles.Cal navy goes almost 80km+ with good skills.
Malcolm Rennolds
Inquisition FiS Division
#12 - 2013-11-23 15:36:46 UTC
With decent skills your tengu will hit out to 82km with faction missiles, do more dps and tank more. With a tiny touch of faction it will tank over 1k. If you go augmented cap res instead of cap regen you can even up the DPS even more. Heck in a c1 or c2 if you fit an afterburner you probably won't even have to pulse it.
Maximus Hashur
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-11-23 17:43:46 UTC
Is the Pithi-A type small shiled booster enough to tank 8-10 DED?

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#14 - 2013-11-23 18:27:46 UTC
Big trouble comes with the incredibly ****** tracking of rails. Missiles or Heavy Pulse Lasers (Zealot/Legion) are a lot better for fast pve. Since a covops-tengu uses missiles anyways, would build the rest around missiles aswell.