EVE General Discussion

Go to null and find a renter corp. Harass them until they leave and wait for the next renter to show up.

I'm not referring to arranged numbers, I'm referring to situations where the opponents are usually somewhat even.
Or at least, as close as you can get to this in EVE.
Many nice strategy games both virtual and physical have lots of these situations.

Are wormholes truly the only counter to the enemy winning with sheer numbers?

EG: I have a well fit gang of skilled pilots in 40 T3 cruisers, command ships and logi.
My lowsec POS is under attack, and suddenly an enemy fleet of 120 tornados comes in.
Am I now at my enemy's mercy unless I can find blues?

120 Tornadoes are going to alpha your T3's off field. Blap and your dead.

There are ways to deal with numbers, most are too easy to avoid though. One way is trying to lure the larger force into a position that does not work for them such as trapping half their fleet on one side of a gate.

Another option is to hire mercs for additional troops or talk to the enemy of your enemy to work something out.

Numbers are just another strategy that people will use to win fights. If you know the enemy can only muster 50ish pilots why not bring overwhelming forces if you want to win?

Fun fights are the fights you go into knowing that you are going to lose but you make the enemy work for it. Once in Null we took a proteus cyno bait and when they blopsed us we focused one of their Widows and killed it before they overwhelmed our cheap cruiser gang. Did we win? no! But did we have fun killing the widow before they knew what was going on? Hell yes!

You can try to intercept them on a gate and force a close-range brawl (but that would be very difficult to do without bubbles).
In nullsec you can also try to bomb the crap out of them.

Lowsec unfortunately lacks these two mechanics...

Either way, you must understand that you are going against three times your numbers. Your goal will be to minimize your losses more than to cause serious damage. If there was a way you could routinely beat three times your numbers (in comparable ships) (without your enemy screwing up horribly), something would be really wrong with the balance of the game.

Like it or not, diplomacy is an important part of EVE warfare. Without allies, you will either have to choose which fights to take and which to avoid (and that means you will have to default on some defensive fights), or resort to arranged battles. Or you can go on the offensive and use guerrilla tactics to disrupt a larger alliance - but don't expect many actual shooting fights from that.

Your best bet is probably doing your research on many prospective targets, and picking on someone who regularly fields roughly your numbers. You won't be able to just wander into region X and get only fights of your size, whatever your size may be. Entities of all sizes live in all corners of the universe.

Isn't there a fair bit of regular even numbers PvP in wormholes too?

I just mean with mass limit in WH, aren't there quite a lot of fights which are determined by mass limit and people don't "slowly sneak" ships in?

Worm holes, low sec.. and incredilby high sec quite often. In none ofthose plaecs there is ONLY good fights, but you can fid the good fights with less of what you dislike

Come join RvB... We are just what you seem to be looking for. At the very least you will get a good handle on how fleet fights go down.