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Well Done CCP - OP Success on Nullsec

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Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-11-22 09:09:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr R4nd0m
I guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right?

I guess that gives us the real vibrant, confrontational, dynamic pvp environment you was looking for then? Roll I mean we might as well just get rid of all the resources that large nullsec alliances are 'supposed' to exploit.

So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? Roll

in fact if they not gonna actually use it, then why not just make it all NPC nullsec instead. Yeah thats what we need..

AttentionThere is approx 700 systems, 230 outposts that are part of some rental alliance! that is incredible! and ridiculous.Attention
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#2 - 2013-11-22 09:13:12 UTC
Someone's jimmies have been rustled.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-11-22 09:15:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr R4nd0m
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
Someone's jimmies have been rustled.


Not really.. but facts are facts..and you didnt actually disagree with me either
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#4 - 2013-11-22 09:15:55 UTC
If you don't like the renters, shoot them. If you are in an alliance that has renters and you disagree with the renting program, drop corp and shoot the renters. If you are jealous of all the bank these groups are making off of renting then not only should you shoot the renters but the landlords as well.

If you don't like the status quo of things going on then actually do something about it than putting up a pointless thread.

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."

Inquisitor Ageri
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-11-22 09:16:34 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
its not like anyone actually lives there


Good point.

Oh, and biomass yourself.
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#6 - 2013-11-22 09:18:11 UTC
I am mad. Damn mad. And I am not going to take it anymore dammit.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-11-22 09:18:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr R4nd0m
Job Valador wrote:
If you don't like the renters, shoot them. If you are in an alliance that has renters and you disagree with the renting program, drop corp and shoot the renters. If you are jealous of all the bank these groups are making off of renting then not only should you shoot the renters but the landlords as well.

If you don't like the status quo of things going on then actually do something about it than putting up a pointless thread.


Maybe pointless to you but not to me, that's why we all have opinions. Sorry you don't agree. After playing eve for 10 years and seeing it come to this after all the years of making eve 'better', with more conflict, content etc etc I think i have a right to my opinion. I am not that naive to believe everyone will agree with me.
Mr R4nd0m
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-11-22 09:21:17 UTC
Inquisitor Ageri wrote:
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
its not like anyone actually lives there


Good point.

Oh, and biomass yourself.


At least post with your main, if you want to make silly childish comments, so we can all laugh at you in game. Oh wait that's why you didn't. Because posting comments like that must mean you are at least 13 yrs old
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#9 - 2013-11-22 09:21:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Job Valador
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
Job Valador wrote:
If you don't like the renters, shoot them. If you are in an alliance that has renters and you disagree with the renting program, drop corp and shoot the renters. If you are jealous of all the bank these groups are making off of renting then not only should you shoot the renters but the landlords as well.

If you don't like the status quo of things going on then actually do something about it than putting up a pointless thread.


Maybe pointless to you but not to me, that's why we all have opinions. Sorry you don't agree. After playing eve for 10 years and seeing it come to this after all the years of making eve 'better', with more conflict, content etc etc I think i have a right to my opinion. I am not that naive to believe everyone will agree with me.


The thread is pointless because it changes nothing in game. You speak of content and conflict, well here is a hint, log off eve gate, log into eve itself, make your ******* content and conflict instead of complaining that there is none.

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."

Inquisitor Ageri
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-11-22 09:25:05 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
if you want to make silly childish comments


Ah, the bitter tang of irony.
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
#11 - 2013-11-22 09:25:37 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
I am mad. Damn mad. And I am not going to take it anymore dammit.

Nomad pls

RATE LIKE SUBSCRIBE

Danalee
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-11-22 09:27:15 UTC
Wait, what did I miss?

Excuse my ignorance but was there a stealth nerf to nullsec in rubicon?

D.

Bear

Proud member of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority

Member and Juror of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#13 - 2013-11-22 09:28:52 UTC
Mr R4nd0m wrote:
I guess making 70% of nullsec rental space was CCPs future for eve - right?

I guess that gives us the real vibrant, confrontational, dynamic pvp environment you was looking for then? Roll I mean we might as well just get rid of all the resources that large nullsec alliances are 'supposed' to exploit.

So in rubicon v2 please remove all belts, all crappy moons, all anoms, infact why dont you just remove nullsec its not like anyone actually lives there and creates some real economies is it? Roll

in fact if they not gonna actually use it, then why not just make it all NPC nullsec instead. Yeah thats what we need..


:( you are a mean boy

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back

Lugalbandak
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-11-22 09:29:39 UTC
Danalee wrote:
Wait, what did I miss?

Excuse my ignorance but was there a stealth nerf to nullsec in rubicon?

D.

Bear


oh and ask this guy , plenty of pvp with renters

The police horse is the only animal in the world that haz his male genitals on his back

Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-11-22 09:35:44 UTC
One day CCP wil have to listen. THe only way to make 0.0 a place where each one has to defend it own ground is to make most infrastructure targets to be possible to disable with a rather small gang. That way you could harash incompetent alliances withtout giving time for them to bring their masters to bear with hundreds of capital ships.


As long as all infrastructure in eve has MILLIONS of HP, nothign can be done. As long as doing any meaningful damage takes hundreds of capitals or hours with a reinforced timer.. nothign can be done. Until then.. eve is about the very few most powerful blocs and their rented space.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-11-22 09:43:28 UTC
HATE HATE HATE HATE

TO THE FORUMS!

FOR CHANGE!
Toshiro Ozuwara
Perkone
#17 - 2013-11-22 10:19:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Toshiro Ozuwara
I don't understand why people get mad about nullsec. Players have created corps, formed alliances, and then added coalitions on top. They have mined moons, they have mined, ratted and PI harvested.

They found the best way to make money in nullsec was to rent.

This is emergent behavior, not the fault of CCP. If you want them to intervene, what you're saying is that you don't like the sandbox (and implicitly, are too impotent to do anything about it).

Well organized and motivated player groups are always going to optimize the game for their personal gain. Either become one, join one or keep being a hisec publord. Alternately, you can join the CFC and become a nullsec publord, but that's a topic for another day.

It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon, deep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away Not today, it's not the way that this kid plays

Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-11-22 10:28:30 UTC
Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:
I don't understand why people get mad about nullsec. Players have created corps, formed alliances, and then added coalitions on top. They have mined moons, they have mined, ratted and PI harvested.

They found the best way to make money in nullsec was to rent.

This is emergent behavior, not the fault of CCP. If you want them to intervene, what you're saying is that you don't like the sandbox (and implicitly, are too impotent to do anything about it).

Well organized and motivated player groups are always going to optimize the game for their personal gain. Either become one, join one or keep being a hisec publord. Alternately, you can join the CFC and become a nullsec publord, but that's a topic for another day.



You can hae sandboxes with different shapes and types of sand..

Most people that ocmplain were in the old 0.0 time,w hen there were tons of independent alliacnes and lots of smaller wars.

And they know how it was more fun.

Simple as that. people want fun.. and some miss that age. Its like 2007 0.0 was like world before WW1. Current 0.0 is like world after WW2.


Some people would just liek the sand type to be adjusted so that massive power blocks with most space being held by incompetent renters to not be the only way to be in 0.0. No need to remove this way of living, some just liekd when eve politics was way more complicated, with dozens of parties to consider.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"

Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#19 - 2013-11-22 13:59:07 UTC
What is this renting thing?

They pay for space and then they do whatever they want with that space, and that gets them more money than paying the rent... so being a rentor is actually the most efficient way to make money, except for the expense of renting.

So basically whoever is renting the space out is really running a giant protection racket.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#20 - 2013-11-22 14:10:11 UTC
Uhhh...Odyssey added, like, three regions of renters.

:gamebreaking:

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

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