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Marauder Impact on WH Space
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chris elliot
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#21 - 2013-10-23 02:53:41 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:

For PVP, I for one will be cautious about tackling a Marauder in a C3/C4 site even with a small gang. There's a prevalence toward Falcons for EWAR tank, but against a marauder you're just going to lose a Falcon. But we will see - it's not like too many people roll around with small gangs. it's usually hordes of bored idiots dogpiling one poor sap, and even a Marauder's tank won't save it from that.



I 1,000% approve of any and all situations where ecm pilots die.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-10-23 03:52:50 UTC
chris elliot wrote:
Trinkets friend wrote:

For PVP, I for one will be cautious about tackling a Marauder in a C3/C4 site even with a small gang. There's a prevalence toward Falcons for EWAR tank, but against a marauder you're just going to lose a Falcon. But we will see - it's not like too many people roll around with small gangs. it's usually hordes of bored idiots dogpiling one poor sap, and even a Marauder's tank won't save it from that.


I 1,000% approve of any and all situations where ecm pilots die.

seconded.

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Mourn LeBlade
Jupiter Roughriders
#23 - 2013-11-19 02:23:47 UTC
Marauders rock in wormholes, if nothing else than from the perspective of dropping loot.

Vargurs are pretty good.

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AssassinationsdoneWrong
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#24 - 2013-11-19 12:53:55 UTC
Endo Riftbreaker wrote:
and I'm still not clear on what the vision is for their role in PvP.


There are a lot of C2-C4 corps sitting behind dickstars right now who just got their safety blanket taken away. Smile

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What we fall short of in numbers we more than make up for in stupidity
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2013-11-19 13:28:03 UTC
AssassinationsdoneWrong wrote:
Endo Riftbreaker wrote:
and I'm still not clear on what the vision is for their role in PvP.


There are a lot of C2-C4 corps sitting behind dickstars right now who just got their safety blanket taken away. Smile


I always kinda figured living in a Sh!tty C4 was enough of a safety blanket to begin with.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#26 - 2013-11-19 13:33:24 UTC
I also doubt that those new marauders will change a lot for all those domiballs <.<
AssassinationsdoneWrong
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#27 - 2013-11-19 13:41:32 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:

I always kinda figured living in a Sh!tty C4 was enough of a safety blanket to begin with.



Yep I can see how your corp would see C4 folks as a waste of your massive pvp time, because you guys obviously go looking for pew on regula .......... OH WAIT ........... Disregard Roll

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-11-19 14:03:50 UTC
AssassinationsdoneWrong wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:

I always kinda figured living in a Sh!tty C4 was enough of a safety blanket to begin with.



Yep I can see how your corp would see C4 folks as a waste of your massive pvp time, because you guys obviously go looking for pew on regula .......... OH WAIT ........... Disregard Roll



Wow you can search. Impressive. You seem to misunderstand however. We live in a Sh!tty C4.

We'd love more Pew, but we are a corp of old farts with busy jobs and families. I personally rarely have hours on end to roam the vastness of WH space looking for stuff to shoot at, but I try to whenever I can.
Caius Beriat
O'Coin Enterprises
#29 - 2013-11-19 14:04:28 UTC
AssassinationsdoneWrong wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:

I always kinda figured living in a Sh!tty C4 was enough of a safety blanket to begin with.



Yep I can see how your corp would see C4 folks as a waste of your massive pvp time, because you guys obviously go looking for pew on regula .......... OH WAIT ........... Disregard Roll


Lol.

This is a pretty ballsy statement when most of your corp killboard is RVB ganked.

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AssassinationsdoneWrong
Deep Core Mining Inc.
#30 - 2013-11-19 14:17:04 UTC
Caius Beriat wrote:

This is a pretty ballsy statement when most of your corp killboard is RVB ganked.

I wanted to love you AssassinationsdoneWrong Straight


Yeah I know, RL work and weekends only excuses blah from me but happily back in WH's now over the past couple of weeks and all down for the pew now the boss of my boss is my friend.

Don't stop wanting to love me. Sad

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What we fall short of in numbers we more than make up for in stupidity
Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#31 - 2013-11-20 01:07:52 UTC
huh with a T2 only fit; 2 invuls, DCU 2 (ok 3 faction gyros) a vargur can tank over 5k dps completely neuted out and over 2.5k when your 2nd XL ASB needs to reload. It does almost 1k dps, again totally capped out. With a cargo bay of over 1k m3 it can carry a respectable amount of cap boosters and can alway get more delivered one way or another.

It can comfortably tank C5s (Those put out what, 2k dps hahaha?)

Hell this thing can tank an ESCALATION wave for a while at least.

Again this is with a T2 fit tank. Falloff range of 72km with NO IMPLANTS. Again NO IMPLANTS, NO BOOSTS. Man with even LG crystal this thing will be lolsy.

And that's just ONE of them. Yes it can solo C1-5s, yes it can solo a small gang (not kill them sure but bait them and hold them easily)

This thing has so much potential in WH space. The paladin will have insane range with 1.1k dps, Kronus will have excellent tracking and Golem will have something (not familiar enough with it, should do great in the actual site, also more mids more tank)

Anywyas, get creative guys and if you're too scared, jump on sisi.

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zar dada
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
#32 - 2013-11-20 16:48:14 UTC
Looks like one can solo C5 sites in bastion mode. It's not very efficient, but works if you have a small corp and can't field capitals for the escalation waves. I doubt they could survive an escalation wave's neut pressure.

Video C5 Rubicon Vargur

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Keith Planck
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2013-11-20 17:12:05 UTC
zar dada wrote:
Looks like one can solo C5 sites in bastion mode. It's not very efficient, but works if you have a small corp and can't field capitals for the escalation waves. I doubt they could survive an escalation wave's neut pressure.

Video C5 Rubicon Vargur



300mil/hr isn't effeciant?

I'd go as far to say that's the best isk in eve at the moment.

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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#34 - 2013-11-21 08:42:16 UTC
Keith Planck wrote:
zar dada wrote:
Looks like one can solo C5 sites in bastion mode. It's not very efficient, but works if you have a small corp and can't field capitals for the escalation waves. I doubt they could survive an escalation wave's neut pressure.

Video C5 Rubicon Vargur



300mil/hr isn't effeciant?

I'd go as far to say that's the best isk in eve at the moment.


Besides the fact that you need almost an hour to complete the site. I think I will stick with escalations, the net risk is way lower.

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Winthorp
#35 - 2013-11-21 10:00:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Winthorp
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Besides the fact that you need almost an hour to complete the site. I think I will stick with escalations, the net risk is way lower.



You do get that this is only really an option you would use when there isn't enough people online to do cap escalations or they are all busy roaming and you couldn't join.

Clearly everyone would stick with cap escalations over soloing a site... Roll
Sushi Nardieu
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2013-11-21 17:03:55 UTC
The weaknesses of a ship are emphasized by poor positioning.

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Apollo Eros
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#37 - 2013-11-21 19:59:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Apollo Eros
I think Marauders are impacting WH space as intended.

Please keep bringing them

http://goo.gl/TR8d55

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#38 - 2013-11-21 20:36:48 UTC
Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:
I was planning on using my Paladin as bait in WHs.. pretty sure not many people could resist something like that running their sites..


That's pretty evil. Twisted

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WarpTooZero
#39 - 2013-11-22 00:42:01 UTC
Apollo Eros wrote:
I think Marauders are impacting WH space as intended.

Please keep bringing them

http://goo.gl/TR8d55


Man T3 blob, everything that is currently wrong with WH space. That said, good job on killing 5 ships with 20 ships worth at a guess at least twice as much. No surprises here.

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Apollo Eros
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#40 - 2013-11-22 04:16:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Apollo Eros
Anize Oramara wrote:
Apollo Eros wrote:
I think Marauders are impacting WH space as intended.

Please keep bringing them

http://goo.gl/TR8d55


Man T3 blob, everything that is currently wrong with WH space. That said, good job on killing 5 ships with 20 ships worth at a guess at least twice as much. No surprises here.


Coming from a bear your opinion matters much to us.

But what the hell I am feeling frisky. So yes I will waste time responding to your **** post.

Wormholes are about complementing the system that you are in.

So with a bastion module you get the following effect.

Quote:
Increases shield and armor repair amount by 100%.
Boosts all shields, armor and hull resistances by 30%.
Extends all large turret falloff and optimal by 25% (is stacking penalized with other items boosting the same attributes).
Increases all large missile max velocity by 25%.
Has a cycle time of 60 seconds.
When in bastion mode, Marauder is immune to EW but cannot be remote assisted in any way.
When in bastion mode, Marauder speed is set to 0 m/s and cannot warp (mass is unchanged). Also receives a weapons timer that prevents station docking or gate jumping. Weapon time doesn't require the user to drop weapon safeties in high-security space.
Only one may be fitted per Marauder, cannot be deactivated before cycle ends.
Uses 10 CPU and 100 powergrid to fit.
Uses no specific fuel or capacitor.
Skill requirements: Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5 and Energy Grid Upgrades 5


So you find a group of retards pos bashing in a system with the following affects.

Quote:
Armor Repair Amount -34%
Shield Repair Amount -34%
Remote Armor Repair Amount +68%
Remote Shield Repair Amount +68%
Capacitor Capacity +68%
Capacitor Recharge Cycle +68%


Have you ever tried to take down a dual xl asb vargur. Obviously not because you are a bear. Now forgive me I do not have eft (that is a fitting tool that people use to determine stats) But with a dual xl asb as well as siege links they have the ability to easily tank the incoming DPS. But they are ******** thinking their bastion module would keep them safe in a system that gives negative bonus's. But hell yes we will bring the right fleet comp for 9 marauders because they are shiny and we like to kill shiny things. These things go above your head because you are a bear. And bears do what they do best. They like to cap escalate and figure out their best isk/hour (site the above link to your **** forum posts). In the end our nights are spent rolling for people like you.

Sir the cancerBig smile to w-space are people exactly like you. The people that love to shut down their connections in a pocket of the universe and jew. They love to jew hard. But that is ok. Because we love to find people like you. Like I said above you have been added to our naughty list. Just make sure to check your d-scan and keep some juicy loot in your SMA's.

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