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Attention New GalMil Pilots - The Gallente Elite Have Forgotten About You

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Beardon
CRIME CRIME
#121 - 2013-11-21 17:30:58 UTC
Calmil Pilot of almost a year stepping in to defend the Galmil here. Warzone control actually doesn't matter. T4 has been hit 3 times by Calmil since my arrival, and T1 isn't bad at all, as it inflates the value of the LP. The best case scenario in my mind is holding T3 or T2, as there's a bunch of systems to plex while I'm feeling like going about solo, and the lp payout is good when no one feels like fighting me. The Galmil thing about not caring about WZ control isn't new, and I'm pretty sure that I speak for most established FW alliances in any warzone when I say that they don't care about WZ control either. I care about lp only insofar as it affects my ability to field ships, and fielding FW ships really isn't that hard (omg 5 mil kestrels, how will my wallet bear that burden?). I occasionally buy shiny ships, and then rarely have the chance to field em.

It's easy to get excited at the visual or the WZ control, but holding T4 really just translates into not being able to plex without a fleet backing you up, because a smart militia only dplexes essential systems in while T1. This drives the aggressor into home systems which can be heavily defended, and with a fleet, you're barley getting T1 lp. As plexing crawls to a halt, the galmil will start gaining ground, and the pendelum will swing the other way. We might hold T4 for a week or two, **** maybe even a month seeing how we vastly outnumber Galmil with TEST on our side, but numbers alone can't stop the pendulum.

Personally, I have not given a **** about WZ control in a long time. That being said, TEST has been a great presence here. Fleets open to militia all day, great attitude, and they're really helping a lot of folks out with their programs, like the LP payout, and the free ships they huck at those who need em (don't forget to donate to test free if you're taking ships from them and have a fat wallet). When I've joined their fleets, I've had a great time, and hope that they stick around with us in Innia for a long while.
Aioi Yukko
Ascendent.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#122 - 2013-11-21 17:33:59 UTC
Why the **** do you think we fly ventures? BECAUSE INNIA HAS NO BELTS!

TEST Damage Control Team of Forum Warrior.

Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#123 - 2013-11-21 17:54:23 UTC
ZheoTheThird wrote:
I'm going through the pages, right now I'm at page three, crosi and xgal.

Xgal: HOME SYSTEMS ALL THAT MATTER NEVER GONNA TAKE NENNA
Talk about moving goalposts. That's not even moving anymore, that's pushing them right out of the stadium at ludicrous speed. I may or may not have heard a few Qcats and JF guys smugly declaring that we'd never get enaluri - yeah, we kind of took that effortless. Eha's next, we're taking a week off for L4s though. W.......

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When is the week going to be over so you can take Eha?
ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#124 - 2013-11-21 18:24:06 UTC
Thanatos Marathon wrote:
ZheoTheThird wrote:
I'm going through the pages, right now I'm at page three, crosi and xgal.

Xgal: HOME SYSTEMS ALL THAT MATTER NEVER GONNA TAKE NENNA
Talk about moving goalposts. That's not even moving anymore, that's pushing them right out of the stadium at ludicrous speed. I may or may not have heard a few Qcats and JF guys smugly declaring that we'd never get enaluri - yeah, we kind of took that effortless. Eha's next, we're taking a week off for L4s though. W.......

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When is the week going to be over so you can take Eha?

Seeing as the market doesn't show any signs of inflating so far, the week might be a longer one...
Za'afiel
Imperceptible Bedevilment
#125 - 2013-11-21 18:26:21 UTC
24h of the topic and already 7 pages, is this love or what?

Shoot them all! Be polite.

ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#126 - 2013-11-21 18:29:24 UTC
Za'afiel wrote:
24h of the topic and already 7 pages, is this love or what?

This is a sign of TEST's utter irrelevancy

On a sidenote, eha having an L4 agent might actually speed up our decision making progress.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#127 - 2013-11-21 18:35:51 UTC
More L4 missions for the L4 mission throne.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#128 - 2013-11-21 18:47:02 UTC
Beardon wrote:
Calmil Pilot of almost a year stepping in to defend the Galmil here. Warzone control actually doesn't matter. T4 has been hit 3 times by Calmil since my arrival, and T1 isn't bad at all, as it inflates the value of the LP. The best case scenario in my mind is holding T3 or T2, as there's a bunch of systems to plex while I'm feeling like going about solo, and the lp payout is good when no one feels like fighting me. The Galmil thing about not caring about WZ control isn't new, and I'm pretty sure that I speak for most established FW alliances in any warzone when I say that they don't care about WZ control either. I care about lp only insofar as it affects my ability to field ships, and fielding FW ships really isn't that hard (omg 5 mil kestrels, how will my wallet bear that burden?). I occasionally buy shiny ships, and then rarely have the chance to field em.

It's easy to get excited at the visual or the WZ control, but holding T4 really just translates into not being able to plex without a fleet backing you up, because a smart militia only dplexes essential systems in while T1. This drives the aggressor into home systems which can be heavily defended, and with a fleet, you're barley getting T1 lp. As plexing crawls to a halt, the galmil will start gaining ground, and the pendelum will swing the other way. We might hold T4 for a week or two, **** maybe even a month seeing how we vastly outnumber Galmil with TEST on our side, but numbers alone can't stop the pendulum.

Personally, I have not given a **** about WZ control in a long time. That being said, TEST has been a great presence here. Fleets open to militia all day, great attitude, and they're really helping a lot of folks out with their programs, like the LP payout, and the free ships they huck at those who need em (don't forget to donate to test free if you're taking ships from them and have a fat wallet). When I've joined their fleets, I've had a great time, and hope that they stick around with us in Innia for a long while.

You have a good perspective on things and seem a reasonable person unafraid of holding your own opinion, you should totally join gallente, we value those things! Big smile
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#129 - 2013-11-21 18:52:31 UTC
Mehashi 'Kho wrote:
You have a good perspective on things and seem a reasonable person unafraid of holding your own opinion, you should totally join gallente, we value those things! Big smile


Just don't be new because then you aren't allowed near GalMil.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

ZheoTheThird
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#130 - 2013-11-21 19:06:32 UTC
Mehashi 'Kho wrote:
You have a good perspective on things and seem a reasonable person unafraid of holding your own opinion, you should totally join gallente, we value those things! Big smile

You share my views, you're reasonable

People these days
Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#131 - 2013-11-21 19:14:37 UTC
Well that's a non sequitor, we were all new when we joined >.> Myself especially so, having only previously been a high sec mission runner with about 10-15 random high sec frig fights under my belt when I started fw. No one told me I wasn't allowed, I haven't seen anything change in that respect.

And your comment zeo, did I really just troll a troll? Shame there isn't a toungue in cheek smiley! I'll tell what this internet thing needs is a sarcasm font, why isn't someone working on that?
Beardon
CRIME CRIME
#132 - 2013-11-21 19:18:03 UTC
Mehashi 'Kho wrote:
Beardon wrote:
Calmil Pilot of almost a year stepping in to defend the Galmil here. Warzone control actually doesn't matter. T4 has been hit 3 times by Calmil since my arrival, and T1 isn't bad at all, as it inflates the value of the LP. The best case scenario in my mind is holding T3 or T2, as there's a bunch of systems to plex while I'm feeling like going about solo, and the lp payout is good when no one feels like fighting me. The Galmil thing about not caring about WZ control isn't new, and I'm pretty sure that I speak for most established FW alliances in any warzone when I say that they don't care about WZ control either. I care about lp only insofar as it affects my ability to field ships, and fielding FW ships really isn't that hard (omg 5 mil kestrels, how will my wallet bear that burden?). I occasionally buy shiny ships, and then rarely have the chance to field em.

It's easy to get excited at the visual or the WZ control, but holding T4 really just translates into not being able to plex without a fleet backing you up, because a smart militia only dplexes essential systems in while T1. This drives the aggressor into home systems which can be heavily defended, and with a fleet, you're barley getting T1 lp. As plexing crawls to a halt, the galmil will start gaining ground, and the pendelum will swing the other way. We might hold T4 for a week or two, **** maybe even a month seeing how we vastly outnumber Galmil with TEST on our side, but numbers alone can't stop the pendulum.

Personally, I have not given a **** about WZ control in a long time. That being said, TEST has been a great presence here. Fleets open to militia all day, great attitude, and they're really helping a lot of folks out with their programs, like the LP payout, and the free ships they huck at those who need em (don't forget to donate to test free if you're taking ships from them and have a fat wallet). When I've joined their fleets, I've had a great time, and hope that they stick around with us in Innia for a long while.

You have a good perspective on things and seem a reasonable person unafraid of holding your own opinion, you should totally join gallente, we value those things! Big smile


Haha, very happy with Templis, who also value things :P
Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#133 - 2013-11-21 19:23:00 UTC
Beardon wrote:
Haha, very happy with Templis, who also value things :P

Hehe good for you, but can't blame a man for trying! P
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#134 - 2013-11-21 19:28:41 UTC
More contradictions from GalMil, out of one side of their mouth they say they have 'high standards' and don't like newbros, out of the other they are just such a welcoming bunch.

Which is it? Do the contradictions end?

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Mehashi 'Kho
New Eden Motion Pictures
#135 - 2013-11-21 19:34:04 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
More contradictions from GalMil, out of one side of their mouth they say they have 'high standards' and don't like newbros, out of the other they are just such a welcoming bunch.

Which is it? Do the contradictions end?

Well, we are all allowed our own opinions, many of us have different priorities and even objectives. You might like to consider the word "diverse". It is many mouths, not one homologous entity.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#136 - 2013-11-21 19:37:25 UTC
No cohesion amongst GalMil? Pity. Must be why you're stuck at T1 and we're riding the LP train to T4'sville.

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Za'afiel
Imperceptible Bedevilment
#137 - 2013-11-21 19:42:02 UTC
Even more love! Is it wierd that I read this insead of working? It's just so cute.
Like watching two puppies playing/fighting.

Shoot them all! Be polite.

Beardon
CRIME CRIME
#138 - 2013-11-21 19:42:19 UTC
Zah Damaja wrote:
More contradictions from GalMil, out of one side of their mouth they say they have 'high standards' and don't like newbros, out of the other they are just such a welcoming bunch.

Which is it? Do the contradictions end?


Militia's aren't unified, and they have no leadership basis to unite all of the Corps and alliances. Different corps and alliances have different standards and ideals because there's no single Galmil unified body other than an almost arbitrary game mechanic. Templis for instance has higher enrollment standards (though we do like the newbros) than someone like the Lonetrek Militia. Saying Calmil likes X is kinda meaningless because there's no group (in a meaningful sense) that is Calmil, there's just loosely affiliated groups that share a militia colour tag. Kinda like treating the pirates as a unified body, they're united in the sense that they play the game for similar goals and that they have no militia affiliations, but they all do their own thing, and owe each other nothing.
Kestle Gunrunner
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#139 - 2013-11-21 20:00:30 UTC
HAHAHAHA
No Really HAHAHA

Test one of the NULL Elite who looked down on FW pilots as irrelevant, is now beating there chest about how they took space from entities way smaller. Im takeing this chest beating as you saying that FW is now relevant and meaningful. Zone control is so important. You came with 4500 pilots and took up the Caldari mantel of cloak and stab and sperge about like your some kind of lion of Jeruselum. How many regions were you ran out of and you didnt care then about sov or zone cotrol. Now, tier 4 is so important. Oh you poor child, the lessons on FW you shall learn. Other posters are right the pendelum will swing. Your new bros will swap sides, and it will be test and the caldari at tier 1. Its the circle of life in FW. Now you want something to beat your chest about. Take up the other task that FW has and go be anti pirate. Take out the local pirates, you wont and you cant. When the reality of FW finally sets in on your line members. You wont just die you will shrivel and dry up and pass away like other null bear alliances that have came to FW. Dont take me wrong, ive no love lost for gal mil, atleast they dont leave and run away when they have no systems and that pot your stirring with them its a bad thing. Hey, on secound thought just ignore this post. Ill be there with the gallon jugs for your tears when all this comes true.
Zah Damaja
Reveka.
Bad-Touch
#140 - 2013-11-21 20:02:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Zah Damaja
Kestle Gunrunner wrote:
~pendulum~


The above quote falls under "Pendulum"

Edit: Dash of goalpost in there too ("push the pirates out")

[b]Zah Damaja Official TEST Alliance Please Ignore Sun Tzu Quoter[/b] _“A leader leads by example, not by force” -_Sun Tzu, The Art of War