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Why bother with economics at all?
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#61 - 2013-11-21 14:48:52 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
It must be this youth obsession. After six years in EVE and still as clever as a noob coming from WoW. obama-not-bad.jpg



That same .jpg applies as well to people who think the problem with the US education system started with Obama. LMMFAO!

Well, at least we found something he didn't screw up. Smile

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Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#62 - 2013-11-21 15:25:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Eram Fidard
So, you bought some invention supplies on sell order in Jita. You buy minerals @ Jita sell and anchor a pos where you require standings, and charters in addition to (retail price again, I'm guessing) fuel. You spend your time (valued at your highest isk/hour activity so "6-year vet" = "200m isk/hr") moving all these things into position each week, and clicking planets.

Then you go and place your finished product on the market. I forgot to mention perfect market skills. You have those?

If you're not prepared to train "Production Efficiency VI", why should your activities be profitable in hi-sec?

Other people are willing to optimize their production chain efficiency, what makes you exempt?

Yes, there are producers who:

-buy at reduced rates directly from 'gatherers'
-use POS with sov-granted fuel cost reductions
-contract out menial tasks to spend their online time most efficiently
-organize their production lines to remove inefficiencies
-extract PI materials at much higher rates in low and null
-are nice enough to their corp members/mates they can effectively get 'free fuel' through occasional fleet ops
-sell and buy on the market smartly, withholding or dumping stock as appropriate
-have perfect market skills to further increase profitability


...and... to those people, that is their definition of 'fun' in eve.

If your definition of 'fun' is watching your wallet grow, and you are 6 years in, not making profit in hi-sec industry; I propose you are going about it wrong, that it is you, the problem, unwilling to fix yourself.

Pretty long post to call you a troll, I know, but I made it because I didn't think you realize you are trolling.

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Psyue Mi
Silverymoon Corporation
#63 - 2013-11-22 02:12:50 UTC
Since the bulk of the comments were negative, I figured why bother to respond.

As for increasing my skills, most of my science and r&d/manufacturing skills are at 5s.

I joined the game to wingman a pal who left me hanging, and having been pushed to be 'the manufacturing/R&D side of the game. As I don't really enjoy having large groups gank me, I went with it.

So now I am rebuilding ship fighting skills, but frankly the ship fighting side doesn't work too well as an independant.
Spurty
#64 - 2013-11-22 02:49:36 UTC
How's about when a players ship dies, nothing survives

That'll hasten things

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Zheng'Yi Sao
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#65 - 2013-11-22 03:03:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Zheng'Yi Sao
Johnny Marzetti wrote:
Why bother with anything? All happiness is fleeting and we live in an uncaring universe devoid of purpose and meaning, children of a dead god.


Because the creation of meaning is the entire point of existence, and a hillariously good time...

In EvE, the creation of stuff encourages people to blow up stuff.

This in turn, causes people to build more stuff; hopefully with stuff they bought from me.

Big smile

There is no point to the economy. You should all stop building stuff and give me your stuff. I will take care of it. Just buy my stuff.

I will suffer the burden of filling entire wormholes with mountains of ISK; I might even throw some around for fun.

I am selfless like that.



By the way, I don't see any free toldyasos yet... X

Don't make me join Harry...

"It's funny the things you people think are mandatory for us, as if we don't do what we do because it's a hilarious good time in a space video game." - Johnny Marzetti
Freakdevil
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#66 - 2013-11-22 03:30:49 UTC
Game has become cutthroat and I can understand your frustration. If its not fun then why bother, right?

Sadly alot of things in this game are very tedious and boring. And the fact these forums don't help either. Oh jez, listen to me.

Anyway, I wish the best in your future gaming.