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Not sure if this is just a SiSi thing or if it's attached to grid loads from the new warp times or something, but I encountered this message far more often on Sisi than I do on TQ. Did a 40-jump run from Arnon to X-7OMU and got this message probably 10 times:

"[system] Traffic Control is currently offline and unable to process your jump request. Please try again in a moment."

I was the only one in system almost every time. I was in a Jaguar and have good (all 4+) Navigation skills.

Out of curiosity, do systems ever unload after being loaded?

As far as I know not. If I remember correctly: Code for unloading systems exists, but the time for unloading is set to 24 hours.

I guess this is as relevant place as any. Is ccp working on shard migration at all? Tidi is wonderful, but true shard migration without disconnect would be groundbreaking.

Not expecting any promises or timeframes, just a slight nod for or against.

Day without DT: Not as far as I can remember, but we had a few days now with 25h uptime after patch days.
/me wonders if system unloading might have kicked in on these days (assuming this code really exists and works)...

Shard migration: I assume you mean something like remapping a system to a different node, but without kicking the players from the server? This would be something very nice to have, but it needs a lot of work, which is not planned for the near future. Some other performance improvements (like "brain in a box") have for sure a higher priority at the moment.

As far as I know. At the moment ALL your skills/implants/hardwirings are calculated evertime you jump/undock. So the server goes through all you skills/implants/hardwirings and calculates your damage bonus, your resist bonus, etc, from all you skills. With brain in the box there shall be a system that has everthing precalculated. This way you jump in a system or undock and the server gets the data (your brain ) with everything precalculated and doesn't have to calculate all the stuff over and over again. IRC this calculation is one of the main reasons for the population cap in jita and a massive factor causing lag/tidi.

Very good summary, Noriko Mai.



We need to rewrite a bit of code before being able to start with brain in the box itself. This code rewrite was started by CCP Veritas some time ago. More details about this at some later point. :)

I think your post is a very good example why we don't get any further information about the status quo.

Even if CCP did provide some information, it would end in "You are working for xyz months on this. Why is it not ready yet. You [insert random insult]". In my experience it is really hard to tell how hard it really is to code this stuff, because we don't know how much and what kind of code has to be rewritten. It is not unusually that rewriting code ends in much much more work than expected. And the other thing is, that it's server code. It must run 100% reliable.

So imho keeping the profile low and not talking a lot about this is the only way to avoid overestimated expectations.

First, I didn't insult anybody, not on purpose at least.

Second, we don't know what they are working on and that's the whole point. It is not about "is it ready yet?" it is about "did it even started?".

And last but not least, if they are working on those things don't you think legacy code should be less and less of an issue already even if work is not done and finished yet? I mean, FFS if you work on code for 2 years and it still is in its "legacy" state something is not right.

Insult is a "relativistic term". You will never insult someone, but someone can feel insulted by something you said even if you did not meant it. That is why I avoid talking about if things are insults or not.

What I do know is that in the dev business, even IF (if, look at it, it is a IF) you are a better developer than someone else, the fact that you do not work, have worked or is includded in the project gives you a far less horizon to criticize the things that are ready and the things are arent, and why. Sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can help, but that fresh pair of eyes have to see enough to support its criticisms.

That being said, EVE is probably one of the most complex game clients we see around, both in the good and the bad way. It may have a lot baggage from the old days that other games dont because they simply were scrapped and rewritten so much that you cant even recognize the same game. But mostly, other games arent that complex because they simply dont exist as long as eve does.

Some techinques you see in other games related to session change and overall connection administration may be better than eve's one, but you have to ask yourself before criticizing, does that techniques will do for eve any good ? I mean, you dont jump to a solar system from another like you warp to the next planet, and even if software technology allowed such extrapolation, should it be the goal ?

So easy and smooth "to the other side of the universe" travels are really what this game needs ? I mean, it is not enough that you can auto pilot in the Imperial Carebearatum, go have lunch and come back to your ship docked at the destination ? You really have to have oh so smooth and nice jumps ?

If it is to get instajumps, why not get like other MMOs and simply put a teleport from point A to point B even if it is in the other side of the known universe ?