EVE New Citizens Q&A

Probably too early at this point, but our little corporation formed of newbs dreams about setting up our first station in near future. Skill requirements and resources are not problem anymore - we have those, but to my understanding in order to build base withing faction territory - preferably above 0.5 zone - you need to have positive standing with faction owning that star system - in our case Caldari - as we are most familiar with Caldari space and most of us / our friends fly around there.

Here are my question(s). Besides the basic skills, what are required for effective moon mining station? We try to manage with small Minmatar control tower so any setting fitting withing that frame?

Even if in 0.5 sec, surely least basic defences are required. Recommendations?

How to improve standing with Caldari faster? I believe standing is required to be at 5 to make station building possible in 0.5 sec. That is currently our main issue. Missions might help, but even the progress is slow.

Anything I should know / think of before we even start setting up the station? Isk is not an issue, but even then 50+ million tower and their equipment is quite costly thing to F### up.


0.5 sec is requirement. We have no capability to defend our assets effectively in lower secs with just couple of cruisers. Larger corps would eat us. They might eat us even in 0.5 sec, who knows.


Newb - I know, but we're ambitious and determined. As long as we make 1sk profit with this thing, I call it profit. Right now we just want to see if we CAN setup an base. >:D

I think I heard glass shatter on background. If 0.4 sec is max allowed for moon mining, then that complicates things. We barely have capability to fight off cruiser.

Then I suppose profit shall not be basis for our base - just a test can we make it. Even so, are there any other profitable base types to be made on 0.5 secs? I remember seeing research post of sort in 0.7 sec, sitting atop of random moon.

The maximum security level for moon mining is 0.3, not 0.4.

You can use POS laboratories to get extra research slots for your corporation. This can be useful as research slots in highsec stations are often booked for several weeks in advance. But other than that, POSes primarily serve as an income source or staging areas for PvP corps/alliances. If you are not able or willing to fight for the good moons, they are of little value to you. They are a tool of war much more than a tool of industry.

It is not possible to build stations in high or low security space. Any stations you see in high/low are NPC controlled.

Hisec POS are all about research (hence Caldari towers > others): copies, material research, and reverse engineering.

They can also be used for invention, productivity research, and manufacturing, though all these slots have good availability at NPC stations.

A research POS can more than pay for its fuel costs, if well utilized.

You can easily make profit on a highsec POS.

The trick is to go at it with as few people as possible. Solo may even be preferred.

The standing is averaged among all members, so it's easiest to kick everyone from the corp except the one person who has the standing, and that one person anchors the POS. Then, just use it for copying, research, and invention. A medium POS can have 4-5 labs and still some defenses, depending on if you want hardeners.

Since slots will be of limited availability, it's best to have a plan on who is going to use the POS and what for, beforehand. If you're making capital BPC packs, for example, that can use the majority of your slots, so you don't want to give the whole corp access.

Another thing you'll have to have is space to anchor your tower. Be prepared to wardec someone and take theirs down, or pay 100 mil+ to have someone give you space.

Also, keep in mind your fuel can run in the hundreds of mil per month. Be sure you can sustain it long-term.

Edit: If manufacturing is your goal, ME research is essential, whether or not you do it at a POS.
Another note, on patch days I often anchor a ship or equipment assembly array. When the manufacturing slots in my system fill up due to high demand, it's nice to have a guaranteed place to build. But you can leave it offline the rest of the time.

A lot of new players view having a POS as a goal, but that perspective is a bit backwards.

A POS is a tool.

If you want to perform an activity that could be facilitated by a POS, then you should consider putting up a POS. Don't put one up and then try to figure out what to do with it, though.

If you are determined to mine moons, don't be too intimidated by the requirement to set up in lowsec. Although the most premium sorts of moon goo are highly coveted, there are many fair-to-middling moons in lowsec that nobody really gives a crap about enough to take down your POS for. Set up in a quiet system somewhere and you can turn a profit without taking a huge risk. Most people will not shoot POSes unless they have a good reason to, as it is an excruciatingly dull process.

However, it must be said that maintaining POSes isn't much fun either. They are certainly nice things to have at times, but not worth the trouble for most players. Having to play your video games on a schedule to keep your stick fueled and running, and hauling fuel in and materials out, it all quickly begins to feel like work.

POS...not station.

If you would have done some research...moon harvesting array clearly stated in the show info...0.3 or lower.

Moon mining is even more boring then normal mining...which say a lot.

All good profit moons are already taken.

Also for highsec POS...Your corp standings need to be 10x the system sec. Corp standings are the avg UNMODDIFIED standings of ALL mebers who have been in your corp for more then 7 days and that have standings with that faction (0.00 standings =/= no standings).

So 4 people with 5.0 unmoddified standings and just 1 with 4.8 amd you cant anchor the tower as your avg ia below 5.0

That is lot of advises here. Big thank you to everyone. We will look into this POS thing now that again - our view of one aspect of game has changed. There is quite much to do here, and we're happily exploring and testing different ways to experience it. Overall thus far I have found the game fun, with all its fortunes and misfortunes. One question though. At the times things seem rather.. hostile around.

I have seen people blow up mining ships in high sec and demand ransom money or 'insurance' money or permit or whatever to call it. Sometimes even little things like ventures get blown up. Whats the point? Do those people actually make profit with such permits?

And second thing is SCAM. Just fly to Jita and amount of SSSHHHtt flooding from that chat is so overwhelming. Is there anything that can be done to it?

Going off topic slightly . I think this can be locked soon.

Again, thank you all for numerous advice. Appreciated.

All of these things are core aspects of EVE gameplay. EVE literally means "Everybody versus Everybody". It is a fiercely competitive and violent game. And yes, we make sheeeeetloads of isk scamming, ransoming, and blowing people up in highsec. It is not only more profitable than mining, it is more fun, too.

As for Jita chat, CCP actually did do a lot to clean it up last week, it used to be much worse. There is only so much you can do when you have 1500 people in local, though. If you don't care for Jita, feel free not to go there.