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The Stratios
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CannonFodder82
Dark EcheIon
#1 - 2013-11-20 13:46:06 UTC
Why does my Stratios have a 30 second re-cloak delay? this is not normal for covops ships?
Diesel47
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-11-20 13:59:16 UTC
because op
CannonFodder82
Dark EcheIon
#3 - 2013-11-20 14:05:56 UTC
30s is too much
Remissus Rinah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-11-20 14:12:30 UTC
Diesel47 wrote:
because op


I agree that it -should- have a delay. However, 30 seconds makes it rather impractical to use; Even as a means of protection while traveling. 15 seconds would make a lot more sense.

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Sentamon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-11-20 14:20:58 UTC
Needs I WIN button imo.

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Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2013-11-20 14:24:29 UTC
Consider this - the Sisters of EVE are not in anyway a war like organisation. Their ships have weapons, yes, but they are designed to defend themselves, and not go as the first gun; think of the 30 seconds delay as them having an older variant of the Covert Ops computer systems, which while having the computational ability to handle the Covert Ops system, does not have the capacity to handle the immense requirement to re-cloak immediately:

They after all a Humanitarian organisation and not one of the major 4 empires.

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
CannonFodder82
Dark EcheIon
#7 - 2013-11-20 14:27:54 UTC
Arline Kley wrote:
Consider this - the Sisters of EVE are not in anyway a war like organisation. Their ships have weapons, yes, but they are designed to defend themselves, and not go as the first gun; think of the 30 seconds delay as them having an older variant of the Covert Ops computer systems, which while having the computational ability to handle the Covert Ops system, does not have the capacity to handle the immense requirement to re-cloak immediately:

They after all a Humanitarian organisation and not one of the major 4 empires.

No
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#8 - 2013-11-20 14:28:25 UTC
Posting in a "gimmie OP win button" thread...

...
CannonFodder82
Dark EcheIon
#9 - 2013-11-20 14:30:42 UTC
Azami Nevinyrall wrote:
Posting in a "gimmie OP win button" thread...

not the case at all, its an exploration ship, and waiting 30 seconds to re-cloak after uncloaking is far too long, but cheers for showing your intelligence, or lack of it anyways
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#10 - 2013-11-20 14:33:53 UTC
It can warp while cloaked. Count your blessings, bro.

It could EASILY be worse. They had full justification to not letting us actually fit Cov Ops cloaks, so the SoE ships would show up on D-scan too.

Just pick your fights correctly, and you won't have to worry about recloaking.

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CannonFodder82
Dark EcheIon
#11 - 2013-11-20 14:36:23 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
It can warp while cloaked. Count your blessings, bro.

It could EASILY be worse. They had full justification to not letting us actually fit Cov Ops cloaks, so the SoE ships would show up on D-scan too.

Just pick your fights correctly, and you won't have to worry about recloaking.

i dont really want it for pvp i have lots of ships for that, just wanted it to cloak faster that is all, no iwin button or any of that crap the morons keep posting, just plainly a exploration ship blap some rats and try and find nice things

spose it is what it is tho..
Arline Kley
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#12 - 2013-11-20 14:40:57 UTC
CannonFodder82 wrote:
Arline Kley wrote:
Consider this - the Sisters of EVE are not in anyway a war like organisation. Their ships have weapons, yes, but they are designed to defend themselves, and not go as the first gun; think of the 30 seconds delay as them having an older variant of the Covert Ops computer systems, which while having the computational ability to handle the Covert Ops system, does not have the capacity to handle the immense requirement to re-cloak immediately:

They after all a Humanitarian organisation and not one of the major 4 empires.

No


Quite a stunning argument there; monosyllabic, direct to your point, but unfortunately lacking in any sort of riposte towards my argument, beyond your primary post dictating that "My new shiny ship isn't as cool as I want it to be, please CCP make it better."

Please do elaborate why you cannot handle a potential work around (as its not explicitly stated that they have access to proper Covert Ops tech) to this "problem"

"For it was said they had become like those peculiar demons, which dwell in matter but in whom no light may be found." - Father Grigori, Ravens 3:57
Trii Seo
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2013-11-20 14:46:03 UTC
It makes some sense, and it for once doesn't shaft the T2 branch - specialized recon ships and frigates still have that + covert cynos.

It's a shame neither of SoE ships have the latter, but hey - it's not like you see SoE Black Ops Battleships prancing about so I guess there's some merit in that decision too. (And older tech).

Proud pilot of the Imperium

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Remissus Rinah
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-11-20 14:53:05 UTC
Arline Kley wrote:
Consider this - the Sisters of EVE are not in anyway a war like organisation. Their ships have weapons, yes, but they are designed to defend themselves, and not go as the first gun; think of the 30 seconds delay as them having an older variant of the Covert Ops computer systems, which while having the computational ability to handle the Covert Ops system, does not have the capacity to handle the immense requirement to re-cloak immediately:

They after all a Humanitarian organisation and not one of the major 4 empires.


Huh! I... hadn't really thought about it like that, in all honesty. That's actually a really good point! I retract my earlier statement.

~ Remissus
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
#15 - 2013-11-20 15:14:13 UTC
Thread No. #2 on this topic.
Going to be interesting to see if there going to be more how much more will pop up. P
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#16 - 2013-11-20 15:14:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
Should have put the 30s as the locking delay, not as the recloaking delay, if they wanted it to be nerfed.

Arline Kley wrote:
Consider this - the Sisters of EVE are not in anyway a war like organisation. Their ships have weapons, yes, but they are designed to defend themselves, and not go as the first gun; think of the 30 seconds delay as them having an older variant of the Covert Ops computer systems, which while having the computational ability to handle the Covert Ops system, does not have the capacity to handle the immense requirement to re-cloak immediately:


Please toss the fanwanking, besides these are supposed to be brand-new technology accomplishing unheard of feats.

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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#17 - 2013-11-20 15:15:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Ranger 1
It does make sense, they aren't T2 vessels specialized in the use of a covert ops cloak.

In fact, they are the only T1 vessels (faction or otherwise) that can use them at all.

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Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#18 - 2013-11-20 15:19:58 UTC
well I must say I was shocked to see the stratios thread is exactly the same as the astero thread.

forums.  serious business.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2013-11-20 15:22:51 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
It does make sense, they aren't T2 vessels specialized in the use of a covert ops cloak.

In fact, they are the only T1 vessels (faction or otherwise) that can use them at all.

Pretty much. OP, remember that pirate faction ships are meant to be better than T1 and navy faction, but less specialised than T2
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#20 - 2013-11-20 15:23:12 UTC
Frankly, I'm not really seeing a reason to shorten it.

You don't want to step on the toes of T2 vessels specialized in the use of covert ops cloaks.

For exploration you don't really need to recloak immediately, unless you've completely screwed things up.

If you're moving through hostile territory you just need to be a little patient when you jump through into a gate camp.

So not really seeing a compelling argument to change it.

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