EVE New Citizens Q&A

Hi,

I'm slowly getting into T1 production on an alt and I'm planning towards T2 in future.
One thing I couldn't figure out is what happens when an invention fails.
Do I lose datacores and decryptors? Or only time?

Thanks.

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The BPC and eventual meta object are of course also consumed.

Thanks, that significantly raises T2 production costs :-)

Thanks, that is important.

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Good all-in-one reference: EVElopedia - Invention
Often your answers can be found in there.

I use decryptors on almost everything now. Only times I don't are on very low value, very short build time Gallente items (because Incognito Symmetry is still more than 500k).

Ammo - use Symmetry for build speed.
Non-Gallente drones - use Symmetry for the slight reduction in materials and to get extra runs per invention attempt
Modules that aren't Gallente aligned - use Symmetry
Gallente modules - Sometimes use Symmetry, sometimes nothing.
Small ships - use Symmetry to get three runs for one successful invention, the slight ME improvement is a meaningful bonus.
Medium ships - run the numbers between Symmetry, Parity, Optimized Augmentation and Process
Large ships - use Process always.

The hard limit on manufacturing jobs is 30 days IIRC.
So a job cant take more then 30 days.

All industry jobs have a maximum limit of 30 days, or 1 run, whichever is more.

From research to production.

This is correct. It does not include any wait time.

It's pretty common for people to put blueprints into highsec material research facilities, with the job itself taking 28-30 days but the wait time for a slot being 18-30 more days on top of that. I do this myself as for various reasons I have no intention of anchoring a POS, although I often cut down the wait time by using lowsec research slots.

1. Try this: http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/item.php?type_id=2455

2. Yes. But you can use as many slots as your skill let you. So you can invent 10 in the same time if you have proper skills and enought free slots. You can't queue, but you can set up a job where there is no free slot, just you have to wait for the job before you finished, then it will be your turn automatically. Hope I wrote this clearly :)

3. Same as point 2.

4. I think only Science matters, but it can depend on the type of BPC, I dunno.

PS.: Best thing you can do is set up a small pos in 0.6-0.7 space, then you can have 3 labs. That's a lot of free slot you get that way. It costs around 120-150 mill / month or something like that. Then train your 2 alt on your main account to be able to copy blueprints in your labs. Than train your main to be inventer. Than train your alts again to help you in manufacturing the bpc-s. Now you can use around 20-30 slots same time for copy/manufacture, and 10 slots for inention. Haul the BPC and set up buy orders on market to get the materials. Go to an NPC station. Manufacturing slots are usually free. Sell your things where you can make profit.
And of course don't tell anyone you have a POS :)

PS2.: Start in small, modules are the best / fastest for making profits at the beginning. Research common PVP fits to know what modules used a lot and destroyed a lot :) Use EVE-ISK/Hour program. You can fint it. If you feel you messing up, just use the test server to figure out how things work.