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A Philosophical Question.
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KasatkaKA60
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-11-19 08:42:38 UTC
A Philosophical Question.



Put three different human beings alone together in a room.

Listen to thier conversations.

How many opinions will you hear?
Dangirdas Bachir
The Exiled Titans
#2 - 2013-11-19 08:44:58 UTC
3

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#3 - 2013-11-19 09:02:10 UTC
Dangirdas Bachir wrote:
3

I believe it's a philosophical question Mr Bachir, not a mathematical one.

My opinion would be that the answer is infinite.

Each of the three people would of course voice their own opinions, but those opinions were likely formed as a result of various other people's opinions. Effectively you'd be hearing multiple opinions in different contexts as one person voiced their own. Indeed the opinions of others beyond the three may even be quoted or raised directly. So really there's no limit to the amount of opinions that may be heard during the conversation.

If that, uhmm makes sense? *frowns*

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Kaid Hayden
Seven Stars Search and Rescue
#4 - 2013-11-19 11:11:36 UTC
Trick question - they're Sansha.

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Dangirdas Bachir
The Exiled Titans
#5 - 2013-11-19 12:39:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Dangirdas Bachir
Erica Dusette wrote:
Dangirdas Bachir wrote:
3

I believe it's a philosophical question Mr Bachir, not a mathematical one.

My opinion would be that the answer is infinite.

Each of the three people would of course voice their own opinions, but those opinions were likely formed as a result of various other people's opinions. Effectively you'd be hearing multiple opinions in different contexts as one person voiced their own. Indeed the opinions of others beyond the three may even be quoted or raised directly. So really there's no limit to the amount of opinions that may be heard during the conversation.

If that, uhmm makes sense? *frowns*

Oh please Erica, you might have cleared the fog in my head about going on a killing spree, but what you're saying is complete bollocks. These opinions might be a combination of other's, but that doesn't mean that you have't formed your own version of it. Resulting it in being YOUR opinion, not someone else's. The answer is 3. This might not be a mathematical question, but saying that there is infinite amounts of opinions is inaccurate. And if a number is right, the most accurate one is 3.

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#6 - 2013-11-19 13:57:12 UTC
So during the conversation I mention my sister's opinions too, even though she's not there.

How many opinions have you heard now?

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Kyseth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-11-19 15:05:18 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Dangirdas Bachir wrote:
3

I believe it's a philosophical question Mr Bachir, not a mathematical one.

My opinion would be that the answer is infinite.

Each of the three people would of course voice their own opinions, but those opinions were likely formed as a result of various other people's opinions. Effectively you'd be hearing multiple opinions in different contexts as one person voiced their own. Indeed the opinions of others beyond the three may even be quoted or raised directly. So really there's no limit to the amount of opinions that may be heard during the conversation.

If that, uhmm makes sense? *frowns*


This is actually pretty close to what I was going to say. No favoritism intended.

I actually had a conversation of this nature with a friend of mine just yesterday. We both gave our initial thoughts about the topic, but after hearing the other's point of view, our thoughts were then refined a bit per what the other has said. I suppose it depends on how you want to look at that. Did we have two opinions? In the grand scheme of things, yes --because we are two individuals expressing thought. Did we have multiple opinions? Again, yes, because our viewpoints were influenced by the shared information. After all, that is part of being human --the ability to take in changes and adapt to them.
Silas Vitalia
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-11-19 16:17:19 UTC
Depends entirely upon how many capsuleers wax philosophical about it on the IGS.

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Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-11-19 17:17:42 UTC
opinions on what subject?

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#10 - 2013-11-19 19:01:47 UTC
At equilibrium? Seven. Each individual's; consensus between any two; consensus between all three. This is, of course, assuming that we have a stable equilibrium, and that each person's views remain constant but that they can come to consensus with each other. If time progresses and each individual's opinion is changed, then frankly there can't be any reliable answer.

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Blaise Cadelanne
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-11-19 19:35:26 UTC
With humans there is alway multiple opinions. Each will have a view they hold as their own, but they will also have the views of those who have influence in their lives. These opinions will also be included in the conversation, then as Makoto pointed out, there is the equilibrium of the group, but this can change as well as time progresses and each individual reasons with the others. There is no finite answer to this question, as perspective is a matter of which lens we view the world with at that specific moment.

Blaise Cadelanne

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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#12 - 2013-11-19 19:45:21 UTC
Not enough data to make a formal hypothesis.
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#13 - 2013-11-19 20:04:44 UTC
As Thessalonia said, to be honest. We have to make a great many assumptions to answer; even my statement before included a number of unwritten assumptions, beyond those I thought of while typing.

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Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-11-19 21:11:17 UTC
One. Three people trapped indefinitely in a room would either unanimously agree to break out, or would kill each other until one remained.

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Kyseth
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-11-19 21:55:53 UTC
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
One. Three people trapped indefinitely in a room would either unanimously agree to break out, or would kill each other until one remained.


Interesting take on the situation. How many total opinions do you think were expressed before the number of people fell to one? Also, what would happen if one didn't remain? As infinity approaches zero...
Saya Ishikari
Ishukone-Raata Technological Research Institute
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#16 - 2013-11-20 00:21:12 UTC
As many as it takes for one to be right in their own eyes... Then it starts over.

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Dreygun
Alexylva Paradox
#17 - 2013-11-20 00:33:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Dreygun
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
One. Three people trapped indefinitely in a room would either unanimously agree to break out, or would kill each other until one remained.



sadly if there is a right answer here today its this one. mankind is not known for allowing others to hold an opinion contrary to their own..
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-11-20 00:35:12 UTC
Kyseth wrote:
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
One. Three people trapped indefinitely in a room would either unanimously agree to break out, or would kill each other until one remained.


Interesting take on the situation. How many total opinions do you think were expressed before the number of people fell to one? Also, what would happen if one didn't remain? As infinity approaches zero...


Assuming they only share opinions on one subject, initially no more than three, no less than one.

If nobody remained, then there would be none, unless somebody managed to write their opinion on and with something.

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#19 - 2013-11-20 03:30:51 UTC
KasatkaKA60 wrote:
A Philosophical Question.



Put three different human beings alone together in a room.

Listen to thier conversations.

How many opinions will you hear?

Counter question.

How many opinions will you hear, if you put one human being alone in the room and provide unlimited time for talk?

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Janna Sway
Ember Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#20 - 2013-11-22 00:21:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Janna Sway
KasatkaKA60 wrote:
A Philosophical Question.



Put three different human beings alone together in a room.

Listen to thier conversations.

How many opinions will you hear?


Who cares about what human beings have to say?

What matters is GOD's opinion, for with HIM comes order and harmony.
Just take one human and you get an infinity of opinions and directions, resulting in chaos and disharmony.
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