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Solo C2 WH, isk/h?
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Prober Boy
Cabaret
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2011-11-19 14:50:41 UTC
Hello guys,

How much isk i can get in a C2 WH? Solo*

I look at the forum but cant find any awser for this.. any can help a noob WH explorer?

Sorry for my bad english ^^
Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
#2 - 2011-11-19 15:31:55 UTC
Short answer: It's random.

If isk/hr is your concern, wh'ing may not be for you. The payoff is pretty random and I seriously doubt anyone can give a solid figure on isk/hr in c2s, or high sec exploring etc. Missions/mining are for consistency, exploring is random.

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Orion Hastmena
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2011-11-19 15:36:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Orion Hastmena
I've always heard C2's are a lucrative business. Although, from what I heard, it can be tough finding a wh without someone already in it. Here is a post from eve-search:


Quote:
If you're talking about c1/2 wh's....I've found them to be more profitable comparing mission to sleeper site. On the other hand, in a wh you will run out of sites. You can mission ad nauseum. So, in the long run missions are more profitable. Beyond c2's missions can't compete. We run C3's. Our best was about 300mil/hour/individual. That's a ballpark figure because I can't be arsed to spreadsheet it. Neither do I care. I love w-space. Even while running multiple POS's I'm still making more than I ever did running missions. And when we run out of sites, we close/open a new c3. Profit!

http://eve-search.com/thread/1518479/page/1

I'm actually thinking of moving into w-space myself when I get my SP up to par. I'll probably start out in a C1 and move up to a C2. Also, I heard that if you can mine AND run the plexes you can really sap all the isk out of the W-space; although, I wouldn't call it necessary for you to mine out w-holes. I can't remember if it is required for you to cycle your w-hole.

Take what I wrote with a word of caution. I'm still a partial n00b, but I do spend most of my eve time reading through forums so:

Good luck,
Fly safe.
Flakey Foont
#4 - 2011-11-19 17:03:55 UTC
You can make good isk in a C2. However, everyone else knows that too. So expect plenty of company, and de-spawned sites.

And, random is random.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2011-11-19 17:48:02 UTC
I started my residential w-space efforts solo in C2. Then I moved to solo C3, then solo C4, then elsewhere for a break. I am now planning to move back into w-space ... probably solo-C3.

A C2 is a great way to start your solo / small-group w-space efforts. If you can easily run all combat lvl4 mission then, with some adaptation and effort, you will be ok with the sleeper PvE sites.

My C2 earnings seemed huge at the time, but paled after C3 / C4. I can't give you details re C2, but in C3 I was earning an average of 1 - 1.5 billion isk per week.

There are many, many things to learn if you wish to enjoy and profit from w-space. You will almost certainly die, and probably quite a few times. There are also various ways to approach your w-space life. We were 'homebodies' and harvested the resources in our own system mostly, and only very rarely raided other w-syatems via our static WHs. Other people, especially larger groups, depend heavily on raiding via their statics.

The best profit-per-effort in w-space comes from sleepers but there is also a lot of isk available in the ore / gas and the PI ... so it is often beneficial in also having those skills available at a reasonably high level.

C2s offer an additional benefit of usually having two static WHs, and you will find people having very different opinions on the value of the different types of statics. IMO you do not at all need a hisec static. In a C2 you get frequent enough K162s from hisec to run all your logistics needs. Whether you want a hisec static is up to you. They make hisec access much easier, but they also make your system slightly more accessible to raiders, and somewhat more attractive to those who may wish to take it from you.

Go for it, and good luck.

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Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2011-11-20 01:34:01 UTC
I thought wormholes were the promised land of milk and honey where you could jump through and sit there watching your wallet fatten, and a never ending stream of targets would prostate themselves before you.

However in my experience (only of C1 and C2 sites)


  • Profits are not that high - especially if you include time spent on scanning and looting/salvaging. C3 are harder and more profitable apparently.
  • PVP is not that common. Even "occupied" wormholes rarely have actual players. Just go ahead and ninja combat sites in a cheap ship, chances are you'll be fine, and you can pay for a drake after a few sites.
  • Check for forcefields. No forcefield on a tower means it's offline and you can shoot/loot anything at the POS.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2011-11-20 02:47:54 UTC
Anya Ohaya wrote:
I thought wormholes were the promised land ...


There **is** large amounts of isk to be made in w-space, whatever your skills and numbers. Of course it is not without effort or without risk, and the same approach does not suit everyone. Also, it's not for everyone.

As PP suggests, there's not much you can do in w-space without scanning, and you do need to scan often to keep on top of things. So good scanning-related skillbook skills become very attractive and you soon become a very quick an efficient scanner.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-11-20 03:59:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Arazel Chainfire
I posted this a while back: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=103300#post103300
it listed the approximate isk/site (note, it is random, and it does vary from time to time, but its what I found to be the average from way too long running sites - it includes all blue loot and salvage). How much isk/hour you get varies according to how fast you can run the sites and how long it takes you to run them.

-Arazel
Luh Windan
green fish hat bang bang
#9 - 2011-11-21 10:47:14 UTC
Remember as well that there will be times you can't do anything. Yesterday I got nothing done in the wh I overnighted in because visitors from a nearby class 4 had a battleship knocking about. I really need to get my alt into a co-ops so I can have a nosey what the neighbours are up to and see if they really are a threat.

Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-11-23 02:00:10 UTC
The bottom line is it's irrelevant as you make more isk/hour running incursions with MUCH less risk.
I hate incursions since they and nothing more than free isk handouts for the lazy and incompetent but if youre just after isk, go there.

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