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What is the ship progression I should best follow with Caldari
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Constantinescu P'antsoff
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-11-19 20:03:41 UTC
Hi,

I want to ask your advice on the what the best ships I would need to progress in. I need a good all around PVE ship to begin with (I just started out) and where should I aim to go from there. Also, is there any sort of equipment you recommend, especially relating to weapons.

Thanks
kurage87
EVE University
Ivy League
#2 - 2013-11-19 20:06:01 UTC
Constantinescu P'antsoff wrote:
Hi,

I want to ask your advice on the what the best ships I would need to progress in. I need a good all around PVE ship to begin with (I just started out) and where should I aim to go from there. Also, is there any sort of equipment you recommend, especially relating to weapons.

Thanks

For Caldari pilots you should train Hybrids and Gallente.
Eaphod
Amalgamated Co-Operative Enterprise
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#3 - 2013-11-19 20:16:40 UTC
I'd say any ship you like that gets you through Level 1's and Level 2's (a Caracal possibly). Get a Drake for Level 3's and starting Level 4's (though it's kind of painful). Then to a standard Raven, possibly into a Caldari Navy Raven or Tengu depending on your tastes. The Caldari Navy Raven is a very capable Level 4 Battleship, and the Tengu is good at Level 4's (not as fast clear times as a CNR) but is also quite versatile for other PVE activities in Wormholes or Low/Null security space.

As far as weapon system, for Caldari PVE, definitely missiles. Not sure I'd spend the time training to Tech 2 Heavy Missile Launchers unless you plan on flying a Tengu. May train up as you go and skip to Tech 2 Cruise Missile Launchers to use with the Raven/CNR... of course, train up defensive and fitting skills along the way.
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#4 - 2013-11-19 20:41:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Batelle
caracal -> drake -> tengu
Although nowadays it might be more appropriate to suggest caracal -> cerb -> tengu

Honorable mention:

Raven Navy Issue (CNR), Scorpion Navy Issue (SNI), Falcon, Basilisk, the t2 frigs are also good.

the battleships, the NH, the Cerb, there's very little reason to train for or use these ships compared to a tengu. The CNR might have better killing speed and the SNI might rock an awesome tank, but both of these ships have the severe downside of being battleships, and are thus inherently less versatile and useful than a tengu, which pretty much does everything, and does it well.

Of course, I'm a bit biased towards the tengu because I do lots of exploration. The tengu does get edged out slightly by these other ships for pure lvl 4 mission running (lower killing speed made up for by greater mobility and better blitzing ability) or nullsec anomaly running.

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kurage87
EVE University
Ivy League
#5 - 2013-11-19 21:42:36 UTC  |  Edited by: kurage87
Oh for crying out loud...

If missiles, condor/kestrel > corax > caracal > drake > raven

If guns, merlin > cormorant > moa > ferox > n/a (for BS you have to train Gallente) <- Edit: Don't train Gallente for BS actually, forgot that guns are all uncoupled now. So, train for Minmatar BS and Large Projectiles.

Seriously, it's better to train guns than missiles. Guns have much wider options later when you train other race ships, and are better at PvE and PvP than missiles. Also quicker and easier to train, and less reliant on skills. And less reliant on support ships.
Eaphod
Amalgamated Co-Operative Enterprise
The Gorram Shiney Alliance
#6 - 2013-11-19 21:49:09 UTC
kurage87 wrote:
Oh for crying out loud...

If missiles, condor/kestrel > corax > caracal > drake > raven

If guns, merlin > cormorant > moa > ferox > n/a (for BS you have to train Gallente)

Seriously, it's better to train guns than missiles. Guns have much wider options later when you train other race ships, and are better at PvE and PvP than missiles. Also quicker and easier to train, and less reliant on skills. And less reliant on support ships.


While all true, his qualification for the question is based around using Caldari ships. I'm never going to recommend a Rokh be his Level 4 ship, so missiles it is.
kurage87
EVE University
Ivy League
#7 - 2013-11-19 21:54:21 UTC  |  Edited by: kurage87
Eaphod wrote:
kurage87 wrote:
Oh for crying out loud...

If missiles, condor/kestrel > corax > caracal > drake > raven

If guns, merlin > cormorant > moa > ferox > n/a (for BS you have to train Gallente)

Seriously, it's better to train guns than missiles. Guns have much wider options later when you train other race ships, and are better at PvE and PvP than missiles. Also quicker and easier to train, and less reliant on skills. And less reliant on support ships.


While all true, his qualification for the question is based around using Caldari ships. I'm never going to recommend a Rokh be his Level 4 ship, so missiles it is.

Yes but if he's just started out it's better to switch now than later down the line.

Edit: Plus the fact that Caldari don't even have the best (non marauder) missile BS just puts the icing on the sh1tcake.
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#8 - 2013-11-19 22:40:48 UTC
RNI is better than Tengu in all level 4s by a long way now, if you want to do low/null exploration the Tengu is pretty good though.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#9 - 2013-11-20 02:16:03 UTC
Crosstrain for Gall or Minmitar. Your options are VERY limited if you choose to go missiles.

If your a stubborn bastard then Caracal, Drake,Raven.