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The silver lining to this typical CCP behavior is that Fozzie and Rise and handling business.

1. That being said the communication about the SOMER event was atrocious.

2. The live event was laughably bad but still fun. I did facepalm pretty hard while reading the dev blog about it. (You can't try to paint a good picture of a botched live event when the people you are trying to convince are the people who were there taking part in it.)

3. Afaik the GM changes you speak of aren't to get you in trouble for impersonating yourself (is that even possible), they are in place to stop people impersonating other people's alts.

Same here. I don't think eve will ever die, it's too established for that, but the events of recent years has toppled it from being a market leader to a market follower and unless CCP gets as bold as it used to be and gets innovative again then I think Eve has peaked! It will go on but it won't be as good or as exciting as it has been.

Because of the last 8 expansions, the 4 winter ones were way better than the 4 summer ones. If we account that the summer expansion is planned and performed during the Icelandic winter, maybe there's a productivity issue there, specially to foreign employees who aren't used to suffer 18 hours long nights for weeks. Let's say that you wake up and go work and sun won't rise until 10 AM and you are working and it's already dark at 4 PM -that's winter in Iceland. Would it affect your performance? Specially if you had a mostly mental work that requires your brain to perform 100%?

Exactly this.

Warp acceleration change is the biggest thing to happen to the game during the 5 years I've played.

It will alter the experience of flying different ship classes a lot. It will broaden the spectrum of *gameplay* a lot, as warping around (which is the main part of EVE gameplay feeling) will differ between ship classes much more.

Warp speed change provides a huge efficiency boost through force projection to small ships: a small ship roam can be expected to deliver a lot more action with the fast warp speed. As agile small fleets become more favorable, PVP becomes lower entry. The minuscule changes of tiericide have shifted PVP more towards small ships and it shows. All in all this change makes EVE feel a lot different and broader.

IMHO:
EVE lacks the most in *feeling* and as such the area should as such be the easiest to improve in. Incarna could conceptually add some, but realistically it proved a failure. Warp speed change definitely adds feeling. The new jump effect was also in the direction of adding feeling, and I personally like it as it is a clear arrival into a new solar system.

One of the key feeling components in EVE are orbital bodies and IMHO they could be in further focus. As you leave warp the planets pop in, generating an arrival. My tip for the next feeling patch would be the following: give stations, mission sites and asteroid belts a variable "distance from closest planet" -integer which draws them to a much wider spectrum of orbit ranges. The close orbit should be in atmosphere so, that half of the grid vision would be blotted by the planet. Then procedurally generate the placements of all stations again to make varying places out of these grids. In the meanwhile, mission procedural placement would make for an instant fix.

Does anyone hear from Hilmar outside of Fanfest?

Don't get me wrong. I love the warp changes, and the rebalancing, the customs offices thing probably won't affect me much but it's cool. The mobile depots etc are awesome.

Now, I am not saying these things aren't cool. But, all together, they don't amount to what Eve has historically called an expansion. Maybe better than Odyssey, but only by a small margin. These two, have been patches, not expansions.

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Oh, and don't forget to put a long skill in the queue before DT. Better be safe than sorrow....

I just cannot get over this uneasy feeling that once the first player stargate actually gets constructed by some null alliance or other (cos stargates are probably gunna cost the equivalent of like 5 Titans and only null allainces will have the ISK) and people finally get to the other side it will look .... exactly like the rest of Eve.

The uneasy feeling should also come from seeing tons of development time being spent for a feature that only a tiny minority will ever be able to work with.