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Tech 2 BPO's
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Skadi Asgaurd
Fluffy Carebears
#1 - 2013-11-18 12:02:42 UTC
Hi

Does anybody know how many Tech 2 BPO's are out there and for what modules and ships are they availabe.

Thanks
Cat Troll
Incorruptibles
#2 - 2013-11-18 12:06:33 UTC
Skadi Asgaurd wrote:
Hi

Does anybody know how many Tech 2 BPO's are out there and for what modules and ships are they availabe.

Thanks

Between 1 and infinity.

Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off."
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-11-18 12:17:15 UTC
Skadi Asgaurd wrote:
Hi

Does anybody know how many Tech 2 BPO's are out there and for what modules and ships are they availabe.

Thanks

Yes.
Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#4 - 2013-11-18 12:37:49 UTC
I've seen rumours about 60 copies per module/ship were released, but that was just a rumour long back. Not seen any official CCP numbers.

The difficulty quantifying the numbers of each comes in the fact that lots of these prints belong to accounts hat have gone inactive, that have been banned (for RMT) and other destroyed either by pew or accidental trashing (used to happen a fair bit!).

Add to that people being 'protective' about their prize assetts and the truth is, unless CCP tell you, you are very unlikely to ever know.

Cheers.
Inquisitor Ageri
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-11-18 12:40:11 UTC
I know you can pull T2 rig blueprint copies from exploration sites, but I do not know enough about the other forms of complexes to tell you what drops where. As for BPO's, I have no idea. The most I hear about them are the ones that are given away as prizes etc.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#6 - 2013-11-18 14:24:30 UTC
Skadi Asgaurd wrote:
Does anybody know how many Tech 2 BPO's are out there and for what modules and ships are they availabe.

Nobody other than CCP knows. Anything else is a WAG.

The number is always changing with BPO being destroyed or lost to inactive accounts.

Keep in mind that T2 BPO are totally pointless to own other than as collectables, and suffer from a huge opportunity cost for the ones worthwhile to manufacture.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#7 - 2013-11-18 16:36:10 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Skadi Asgaurd wrote:
Does anybody know how many Tech 2 BPO's are out there and for what modules and ships are they availabe.

Nobody other than CCP knows. Anything else is a WAG.

The number is always changing with BPO being destroyed or lost to inactive accounts.

Keep in mind that T2 BPO are totally pointless to own other than as collectables, and suffer from a huge opportunity cost for the ones worthwhile to manufacture.


I agree with your first two statements. But the third is just lazy, ignorant, mouth-spewage.

Many T2 ships are a loss to invent and build. Yet they are still being sold regularly. The obvious answer is because a T2 BPO can spew out an infinite number of high ME copies with which invention cannot possibly compete.

WIll it take a lot of time to recoup the investment? Yup. Patience is a virtue.

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Jythier Smith
BGG Wolves
#8 - 2013-11-18 16:39:46 UTC
Industry in this game is ruined by people who can't do math.
NEONOVUS
Mindstar Technology
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2013-11-18 16:58:26 UTC
Every T2 BPO is profitable.
This is a fact.
There are also far more invented T2 BPCs making lesser profit.
This is a fact.
Profit values change and can go negative.
This is a fact.
Inventing lets you move on, a BPO does not.

So beyond very small volume ships
You will not see the impact of a BPO.
Zions Child
Higashikata Industries
#10 - 2013-11-18 16:58:58 UTC
Jythier Smith wrote:
Industry in this game is ruined by people who can't do math.

Tru dat.

HEY GUYS LEMME PRODUCE THIS STUFF IN SUCH HUGE QUANTITIES THAT I CAN NEVER SELL IT AT A PROFIT!! HURR DURR MARKET COLLAPSE GAIZ.

Stop building T1 frigates for a while, guys. There's like an entire collection of T1 stuff that cannot possibly be produced and sold at a profit nowadays.
Inquisitor Ageri
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-11-18 17:01:19 UTC
Suddenly I find myself compelled to say:

--> Science & Industry
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-11-18 17:24:14 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Skadi Asgaurd wrote:
Does anybody know how many Tech 2 BPO's are out there and for what modules and ships are they availabe.

Nobody other than CCP knows. Anything else is a WAG.

The number is always changing with BPO being destroyed or lost to inactive accounts.

Keep in mind that T2 BPO are totally pointless to own other than as collectables, and suffer from a huge opportunity cost for the ones worthwhile to manufacture.


I agree with your first two statements. But the third is just lazy, ignorant, mouth-spewage.

Many T2 ships are a loss to invent and build. Yet they are still being sold regularly. The obvious answer is because a T2 BPO can spew out an infinite number of high ME copies with which invention cannot possibly compete.

WIll it take a lot of time to recoup the investment? Yup. Patience is a virtue.


Look who's awful at math.

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Himnos Altar
An Errant Venture
#13 - 2013-11-18 17:44:34 UTC
I own a full set of T2 Doomsday BPOs. They have the old, AoE effect.



dammit was supposed to keep that a secret. It was just me and SOMER that were getting these.....
JC Anderson
RED ROSE THORN
#14 - 2013-11-18 17:50:53 UTC
T20 flashbacks.
seany1212
M Y S T
#15 - 2013-11-18 18:00:02 UTC
The BPO's that are left are few and far between, you only really hear they were about when they end up in a loss mail or a bittervet is leaving. Hope you're rich though, the last one I saw (muninn bpo) was going at about 100+billion isk...
Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#16 - 2013-11-18 18:08:13 UTC
Soldarius wrote:
The obvious answer is because a T2 BPO can spew out an infinite number of high ME copies


True.

Given an infinite amount of time a T2 BPO can create an infinite amount of copies.

But given that most of us operate on a finite amount of time the actual amount of copies is that a finite amount divided by the time it takes to create a copy.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.
SurrenderMonkey
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-11-18 18:19:34 UTC  |  Edited by: SurrenderMonkey
Lors Dornick wrote:
Soldarius wrote:
The obvious answer is because a T2 BPO can spew out an infinite number of high ME copies


True.

Given an infinite amount of time a T2 BPO can create an infinite amount of copies.

But given that most of us operate on a finite amount of time the actual amount of copies is that a finite amount divided by the time it takes to create a copy.


Oh, that reminds me - one of the easiest ways to tell that someone has their head completely up their ass on the T2 BPO subject is that they start spewing utter bullshit about how the BPOs can be copied.


The copy times on T2 BPOs are substantially longer than the production times - generally double or so - which means you can only ever decrease your production rate by copying them.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#18 - 2013-11-18 18:20:33 UTC
Stealth 'Nerf [people] for [reasons] and [envy whine] and [passive income] also [unfair selfish statement]' thread.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#19 - 2013-11-18 21:55:10 UTC
I know lots of people with T2 BPO's. If you want to pool your isk with some friends, I can get you some starting at around 20b.

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Captain Tardbar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-11-18 22:02:29 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
I know lots of people with T2 BPO's. If you want to pool your isk with some friends, I can get you some starting at around 20b.


Yeah the problem with Tech 2 BPO's is that they are so damn expensive it will take 5 years before you make your money back with them.

Unless you plan to flip them.

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