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Marauders & POS Defense
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Endo Riftbreaker
STK Scientific
The Initiative.
#1 - 2013-11-17 01:34:12 UTC
So marauders will be ewar immune, and sport huge tanks, anyone doing any upgrades for their C2-C4 defenses? I'm thinking of anchoring some large turrets to compensate. Just curious what others are thinking.
Michal Swiostek
Viper-Squad
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2013-11-17 03:27:37 UTC
I think you will need more neuting towers rather than anything else, since no cap = no reps = no tank

But overall seams like that might just be one of the more practical uses of new maruder/bastion set.
7enn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-11-17 03:35:45 UTC
I thought everyone would be sporting ASB and the armor repper that uses paste, so neuting wouldn't be that much of an issue.
Nero Pantera
ATRAX.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2013-11-17 05:59:50 UTC
7enn wrote:
I thought everyone would be sporting ASB and the armor repper that uses paste, so neuting wouldn't be that much of an issue.


Why don't we also bring a cloaky hauler for all those cap boosters during the pos seige..
Sekeris
Order of Celestial Knights
#5 - 2013-11-17 12:06:14 UTC
Michal Swiostek wrote:
I think you will need more neuting towers rather than anything else, since no cap = no reps = no tank

But overall seams like that might just be one of the more practical uses of new maruder/bastion set.


This. I got to figure how to make room for a few neuts on my towers. I will also have some XL guns offline, but they take up too much fitting space on a tower to always have online.
Endo Scrote
xLegion of the dammedx.
#6 - 2013-11-17 12:16:51 UTC
7enn wrote:
I thought everyone would be sporting ASB and the armor repper that uses paste, so neuting wouldn't be that much of an issue.


Cap is still a big issue with the armour ancillary repper the paste doesnt make any difference to cap issues
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-11-17 15:25:54 UTC
7enn wrote:
I thought everyone would be sporting ASB and the armor repper that uses paste, so neuting wouldn't be that much of an issue.



ASB works fine without cap, until the charges run out
Hardeners use cap. No compensation bonuses when capped out
AAR uses paste and cap.

So yea more guns and more neuts. And plenty of POS gunners.
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#8 - 2013-11-17 18:38:05 UTC
Passive hardeners?

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-11-17 18:58:01 UTC
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Passive hardeners?


Prolly help some. But given the marauders bonuses towards active tanking, no cap = dead marauder. Otherwise why bring them?
ExookiZ
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#10 - 2013-11-17 19:38:24 UTC
EWAR only pos setups never worked anyways. theyre easily defeated by just making the jams never target your ship.

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Senn Denroth
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#11 - 2013-11-17 23:53:12 UTC
Anyone with a decent logistics crew backing them up will just drop bastion and receive capacitor and reps as their ASB's run out. Not to mention that a tower cycles targets often, so unless these lower class groups have dedicated POS gunners they're going to be in a world of hunt. No longer immune to an easy invasion.
triclinic bistot
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-11-18 11:42:00 UTC
Senn Denroth wrote:
Anyone with a decent logistics crew backing them up will just drop bastion and receive capacitor and reps as their ASB's run out. Not to mention that a tower cycles targets often, so unless these lower class groups have dedicated POS gunners they're going to be in a world of hunt. No longer immune to an easy invasion.


When a ship uses Bastion they cant receive capacitor or reps when it is in use
Caius Beriat
O'Coin Enterprises
#13 - 2013-11-18 12:08:28 UTC
triclinic bistot wrote:
Senn Denroth wrote:
Anyone with a decent logistics crew backing them up will just drop bastion and receive capacitor and reps as their ASB's run out. Not to mention that a tower cycles targets often, so unless these lower class groups have dedicated POS gunners they're going to be in a world of hunt. No longer immune to an easy invasion.


When a ship uses Bastion they cant receive capacitor or reps when it is in use


Read it again.

He said drop Bastion.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#14 - 2013-11-18 16:09:48 UTC
The smart thing to do is run bastion once with auto repeat off, since you don't need to relock when you go into bastion. Is pretty baller.
Le'Mon Tichim
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2013-11-18 18:40:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Le'Mon Tichim
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Passive hardeners?


Prolly help some. But given the marauders bonuses towards active tanking, no cap = dead marauder. Otherwise why bring them?


They're micro-dreads. If you aren't going to support the ships you bring, why bring them at all?

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