Wormholes

Up until recently I was your average Bob fearing man, living in class 5 space with a lower class static (c3)

I had posted a thread on these very forums expressing a desire for something more... I made a plan to move to C6 space.
I wont lie. I was terrified of C6 space. Blood Union and No-Ho were my boogey man. The guys in the dark who would jump out and gank me at any time anywhere.

I fought off fear and we took the plunge into C6-C6 wormhole space. and to great effect. I remember when my corp was in The last chancers alliance and people spoke of 90 man roaming t3 gangs that rofl-ref'd pos' as they saw fit and entities who wanted to keep the "sanctity" of c6 space clean

None of it was true. We have rolled into many C6 groups. Reapers Grin (that legion fit....), TDSIN, No-Ho Repercussus and more.
We have had great fights with every single one of them. No 90 man t3 gangs at all. No-Ho seemed to welcome our presence with blaster fire and laser vollies and all has been amazing. Even TDSIN and Skyfighters tok the time to come in and have some fun.

I want to help bring life BACK to C6 space and create a flourishing PvP environment I once heard stories of.

As of now ANY PvP group that wants to come out and experience this wonderful life can contact me and we will give the location of an empty c6 with your chosen static if we come across it. I have seen so many empty systems and even more populated with 6 man farming corps. The time of stagnation must end up here.

Even after fights AGAINST No-Ho we have gone out on roams with them after. this attitude can and should be encouraged. pew each other! and then WITH eachother.

My alliance has so many high hopes for this wonderful aspect of ths game we all play.

Im trying to shift them away from the paradigm of t3 combat. Starting VERY soon i will be getting them to roam c6 space in gangs of frigates and maybe even destoyers in search of better more engaging combat.

this isn't null sec and our fleets shouldn't feel like null strat ops where its the same fleet comp over and over and over and over again

I think brave newies had the mantra right "Fun per hour over isk per hour" you have a t3 fight and what do you get? "yeah that was ok" have a huge 40 man frigate brawl.... that's FUN. Alliance like no holes and ssc and KILL have all made their mark and everyone knows them for the prowess. they've hit the top and i have the utmost respect for them. now that youre there. its time to have some REAL fun.


As a new resident to c6 space I want to call out all the people who are too nervous and scared to take the plunge.. The waters are warm and the beaches are endless. come take a swim its amazing out here


Dmitry

You got mail Dmitry ;)

C5 and C6 space is pretty interconnected. For example we meet with NoHo all the time. Theres no need to move.

Anyway, I'm glad you enjoy our little corner of eve Dmitry.

I understand the larger more established groups like susu sky fighters disavowed and those guys being rooted where they are. They've established themselves in a long time home and I wouldn't really expect them to make the move. Most of you have done it already anyways. But the random 150 man alliances and 80 man corps that inhabit c2 space (hell gate alliance, heart of darkness and the like) should take the leap. Never be satisfied is my motto. I'm never happy with settling and always striving for more. Maybe I'm trying to force my beliefs. Or maybe I'm trying to give people the push they need to grow and do something better. Brave newbies for instance. I had a run in with them when I was the only person in nova scanning my way out. I jumped into a c5 saw some domis ignored them jumped through a c5 into a c2 and started scanning. The domi fleet jumped behind me 3 minutes later collapsing me out of the nova chain with only an eol low sec connection. Obviously I was enraged. But I got to talking with the CEO of their worm hole corp and he was looking for a new wormhole. They had a c2-c2 I think. He wanted to stay in low wormhole space and I convinced him to take the plunge and gave them our c5-c3. So far tey seem to be doing well there. They lost a couple caps but it happens. They took the plunge and I commend them for it. I just hope others are willing to do the same

Imo, nearly every chain connects down to a lowclass wormhole, so it to me appears to really come down what you want to have in your static. For us, that's a c5, as c5s are the one class with most of the rather experienced pvp-groups in it. Lowclass static on the other hand (or the combination of c5/c6 with c2 static) is more a funhole, or a sologanker's dream.

Nothing personal and I have zero interest in fostering the us (C1-C4) vs them (C5-C6) attitude that has been so prevalent since the creation of w-space, but it is this must go to C5/C6 attitude that will ensure you fail in your endeavor. You see, most C2 folks like them just fine and I for one don't see C5/C6 life as "better", in fact, I see it as the opposite. The biggest difference however is that I respect the C5/C6 corps for their choice to live there, and don't look down on them because they don't play the way I do. We get everything we want out of the C2 like the pew pew, the ISK, and mainly because it is fun. 2 people or 1 dual-boxing can make all the ISK they need/want, chain or hs diving is plentiful, often leading to ganks or PVP. While I think your intentions are noble, without getting a better handle on what has already "gone wrong" in w-space you just aren't seeing the whole picture. Some lower class folks will naturally migrate to higher class but if they don't, your assumption that they are essentially scared or just fail is way off in many instances. Not everyone want's to participate in the arms race.

For us, C2 life maximizes fun/hr and that is what guides our corp.

I apologize but I am not entirely following your line of thought. However, to address what I think you are getting at, it is not at all uncommon for us to have 30+ wh in our mapper, leading to HS, LS, and Null k-space. IMHO chain-building is hardly an issue. We run across C5 and C6 all the time. In looking at our Mapper right now, I can confirm connections to every class of wh and k-space system. I believe, and our experience supports the idea that chain-building and subsequently finding people to engage is a function of membership effort, not where you live.

Lived in c6 space most of my time in eve.. goes through population phases, it was fairly active at one point then completely quiet minus the same few alliances that still remainded. I'm liking c5 space a lot more, and we still have run ins with NoHo etc.

its not meant to offend at all. i lived in the c2-c3 for most of my wormhole life it was fun bu t we rarely got any good fight.. we had honey badgers roll into us trying to do our sights nd a big fight hapened. and we had n0mex camp us for a week . that was pretty much the extent of it. all the other pvp i did was either low null or ganking tengus/drakes in their anoms.

Everyone outgrows their static sometime my corp was 168 memebers or so when we finally decided that we were too fat to live with the skinny people and took off to c5-c4. I was simply trying to express that i hvae had more fun with a c6 static then i have with a lower class

We took the best of both worlds, live in a c5 with a c6 static. Means we get to run away fight anyone in a c6 on our terms, while still being terrible at eve and hiding in our c5. Plus with there being fewer c6's than any other class we find more things to gank and more exits to roam out through, it's nice.

edit: cap usage via static is also another major draw for us, what fun is a c5/6 without caps being present from both sides?