Intergalactic Summit

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So much rage and ... stuff, Mr Bachir.

I respect a good bit of spite as much as the next woman, and a well formed revenge plan sir, but so far yours looks all a bit rash, emotional and poorly planned in a mathematical sense. Honestly though you don't strike me as a man who needs revenge but rather one who could do with a holiday.

One thing's for certain, when you consider the Amarr empire's current population and it's rate of procreation then it becomes obvious that a one-man campaign of genocide is going to take quite some time.

With that in mind why not take a moment, and a few breaths, and book yourself into a Matari resort with a massage parlour for a weekend retreat with a happy ending. Once all that stress is rubbed away you may find yourself sleeping better and potentially forming some kind of plan that won't see you trolled in these halls or turn up as a frozen floater in space.

See? You've taken a moment to calm yourself sir and already you're beginning to think more clearly.

Uhmm, your request is flattering, although rather inappropriate. Seems you're still effected by the fog of war a little too, as I'm neither Matari nor a masseuse, sir, so I doubt I could help unfortunately. Try Rens local maybe?

It happens, don't apologize. Entering my wormhole usually doesn't end well for people though, let alone happily.

Best of luck Mr Bachir. I'm confident a good vacation will resolve this whole sordid affair. Hopefully once you're fully rested and relieved we'll see you returning to a successful salvage career.

Righteous? How would that be righteous at all? Are you seriously suggesting that all people with frustration in life should get enslaved and work on some jerks garden? You might have a point with using all that negative energy on something else than homicidal behaviour, but still, slavery is not an option. Slavery is an option for power mongering fools who gain from someone else's misery.

And how much more would they have benefited from never being enslaved? Eventually they would have emerged from the poverty of barbarism by themselves.

I have no problem if it's their choice, being labelled as slaves, but if you do it against their will that's when the problem occurs. This is about personal freedom. What if they don't want a more comfortable life? What if they enjoy the challenge of survival in the slums?

There's a cultural disconnect, I think, between people who think that personal freedom is always good, and those who see it as too often harmful to the state. I've had a lot of experience with the Gallente, especially, to temper my views. However, with most Amarrians, the first thing that comes to mind when you say, "personal freedom" is anarchy. I was born into an exceedingly wealthy ecclesiastical family, yet my course in life was plotted from birth.

I've found that idea comforting, honestly. I've seen what happens when gambits fail, personal freedom results in drug kingpins and sociopathic murder, even the state of our rather more free capsuleers should tell you what you need to know about unfettered personal freedom. The very point of law is that sometimes, people need to lose their personal freedoms for the good of society.

Of course, that pendulum can't swing too far the other way, or we would not have any sort of creativity or invention. People do sometimes have to bring up non-traditional ideas and that should be permissible. However, what we've largely seen is that, when people are allowed to fall into poverty and left to their own devices, "the challenge of survival in the slums" largely tends to mean the survival off of the backs of others, by crime.

Most slaves these days, since the emancipation, are what, in other cultures, would constitute the imprisoned and the destitute. We have very few prisons and even less homeless shelters because the slavery system forms the backbone of our rehabilitation programs. It also seems to be much more effective when paired with a good Holder, since we can forcibly keep people from relapsing into drug abuse, from associating with friends who would coerce them back into crime, and from committing further abuses that would drag in more criminals.

Since the Pax Amarria, though, I think our days of conquering far-flung peoples and grinding them through "the machine" are long over. Some people would still prefer that route, as it is fairly easy, but we've proven, as a people, that we aren't prepared for that responsibility yet. As effective as it is in the hands of a good Holder, we simply had too many slaves in the system at one time and our standards on Holders were lowered to control the population.

Although, if you do happen to find an Amarrian Holder with slaves who are descended over nine generations from their most distant original enslaved ancestor, do let us know. We have a vested interest in making sure things don't turn out well for them.

Excellent reasoning Constantin, but i never said that our freedom would go to the lengths of anarchy. Just to a degree where the state doesn't control everything. It should be a good middle ground. Sadly i really don't see this becoming a reality any time soon. Amarr, and the Caldari being to controlled, and Minmatar being to free. I guess i was lucky enough getting shot to the Gallente..

We have to offer some of the freedom we are given to live in a functioning society. None society is perfect , each has their own flaws.