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This is huge.

CCP, the above posters have a valid point. Freighter and Jump Freighter Pilots are going to be pulling their hair out from adding EVEN MORE TIME needed to do hauling logistics over numerous jumps between regions when hauling goods. The rest of the ships look good, but the Tech 1 and Tech 2 Freighters are going to need some tweaking!

Travel time test

Ordion Amarr Navy Testing Facilities moon 16 to Jita 4-4 (23 jumps)
undocking to docked manual warp time in a Nightmare faction battleship with no special rigs or mods that affect warp,
no implants that affect warp
all relevant navigational skills at level 5
no gate delays or delays in manual warping*

Time on Tranquility = 28 minutes 12.3 seconds

Time on Sisi = 36 minutes 42.5 seconds

* ran through all the gates on Sisi before the test to make sure they were all online and there were no delays.

That's not due to freighters speed but to information propagation speed.

When you can instantly see the price of every trade hub in the game (by using EvE Central or one of many websites), you are instantly informed about the current price over there. A delay of 45 minutes to bring stock there vs former 30 minutes is not going to change anything.

Your objection would hold if ships had to pay fuel (the cost would affect stock), gate fees and whatever that in RL really plays a role on prices.

Maximizing decelleration at 2 is not really a handsome solution. It results in the most important phase (decelleration) being the same for all fast ships. I'd rather see a more complex solution like: k=(2/A)-2 (making it vary between -0.5 and -1.75 for values between 1.36 and 8).
Even better would be a variation where you trade some of the max warp speed of slower ships for a bit faster decelleration. At present it's mostly the decelleration making the difference between shipclasses, not the warp speed.

The overall idea is to spread out the warp speed spectrum so that small ships warp significantly faster than big ships. I don't see anyone disagreeing with this general idea. Unfortunately due to physics constraints the spectrum can't be entirely shifted downwards. Therefore large ships have to warp slower than now. EVE isn't built on the fact that it takes X minutes to get a freighter from Jita to Amarr. So what if it takes X*1.5 now?

If anything, the freighter change specifically encourages outsourcing hauling to 3rd party companies, which promotes player interaction.

I fly freighters, JFs and caps frequently and I am fine with losing a little for a change that will benefit the whole game.

As a freughter pilot i now spend now much of my time looking at the wormhole effect as it is.

My route is mainly 30 jumps of 20-40 au's per jump with a few 50+ au jumps thrown in.

If i read the change correctly correctly my freighter will now warp at 1.36 and take 78-100 secs per jump, while the old took 55-95 secs per jump.

Which is 23-5 seconds per jump added.

You gave 3 solutions to increaceing your warp speed.

1. Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer rigs whih cant go on a freigter.
2. Use a Strategic Cruiser module which cant go on a freighter.
3. Plug in an implant ... may do usefull depending on which slot it is on and what i already have in that slot.


If i choose the implant option then my warp speed changes from 1.36 to 2.17 (60% increace iirc) whch places it on your data table between BS and T2 BS range. i will ignore the low percentage implant already available.

This will allow my warp in about the same time as i currently do before this change.


While the change will allow more price fluctuation between regions, it will also make jita even more powerfull as a go to place. If that is possible.

Please change freighter and JF to be usable as a freighter in the time available for people to play.


For any freighter pilot who spend too long in warp, this change will convert eve online into "watch futurama's hypnotoad" hyperspace effect.

If you don't second-job EVE, then you're playing it wrong.

Maybe a stupid question but does the autopilot (who many pilots use as a way to plan the fastest route) now take into account the ranges between stargates when setting a route?

Want realism? Let me light a cyno above Jita 4-4.