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Aakkonen
Yoyodyne Industries
#21 - 2013-11-15 20:37:35 UTC
Zuria Rakel wrote:
We have a google spreadsheet, first off, so everyone can see exactly what is owed to whom.

Besodes that? You get paid out per every site you do, based on how many people showed up.
Every one just gets a single even share of each site they were present for. Less 10% for corp tax. Loot is just sold in Jita. The 10% pays for fuel, basic supplies, sone corp ships, and a partial SRP.

We havn't had a single dispute or disagreement over loot since I've been with them (well over a year now).

Whatever system you choose, the points I would focus on are:

Transparency; make sure everyone knows where the isk is going, why there, and how much. (Google spreadsheets are Awsome)
Consistency; pick a systen and stick with it.
Efficiency and enrichment; if everyone is making boatloads of isk, its unlikely anyone is going to rock the boat or create drama.



I'm not so fond of spread sheets but that sounds working plan, so I would like to try it :D

Bad Jokes since -09.... Fly Safe! o7
WInter Borne
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#22 - 2013-11-15 21:33:40 UTC  |  Edited by: WInter Borne
The way Surely You're Joking set theirs up is as follows:

Each pilot that completed a sleeper site received 1 share. At the end of the night the pilots were listed along with the total number of shares (how many sites they ran that night). The loot for that night was counted and then divided by the total number of shares. This gives you the isk per share, which you then multiply by the number of shares each pilot had for that night and that was their payout.

Example:

John = 5 shares
Bobby = 6 shares
Fred = 3 shares
George = 6 shares

Total number of shares = 20
Total loot for the night = 5,000,000,000
Alliance/Corp tax (10%) = 500,000,000
Loot to be split = 4,500,000,000
Isk per share = 225,000,000

Pilot Payout:
John = 5 x 225m = 1,125,000,000
Bobby = 6 x 225m = 1,350,000,000
Fred = 3 x 225m = 675,000,000
George = 6 x 225m = 1,350,000,000
Total = 4.5 bil
Ilaister
Binary Aesthetics
#23 - 2013-11-16 14:43:32 UTC
We operate the same system Winter does/did + spreadsheet as per OPS' posts.

The 10% tax should cover your fuel costs, along with consumables for the corp (ammo, paste etc.) it also allows for the variance in est values and actual market buys.

In the end your corp won't get 10%, and never will, but it means corpies always get what they're expecting = happy corpies.

Only issue is POS fuel costs are shared unequally, those ratting harder pay a larger share but then they're getting greater value in their wallet for their contribution so it kinda balances.

We polled our crew recently on this to see if they wanted to switch, but votes came in overwhelming in favour of the current system.
Nakamiro
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2013-11-18 11:08:15 UTC
The C5 corp my alts are in used to have a nice Google spreadsheet that imported Jita prices. Essentially we paid per pilot, per site at Jita -10% tax.

We switched to a custom web application which has a much nicer user interface (but functions the same way behind the scenes). We have recently switched to a 20% tax rate to build a healthier corp wallet.

While our tax rates might seem high to some, we are a very small corp founded by a few friends. We are really only 8 or 10 active players who have now been together for a couple of years and our investment in the corp wallet is an investment in ourselves. No one pays for ammo, skillbooks, or PVE ships (including capitals). They are all corp owned and supplied.

Essentially our pilots are paying a 20% tax rate for access to C5 escalations and free capitals to fly with impunity.

PI income and operations in the chain are taxed at 10% if the player wants the corp to buy the loot. If they want to haul it themselves, its their own business.
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